What Did They Expect?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53773914
This is exactly why I won't be travelling until this madness is over. Why are these eejits so desperate do visit another country? Now it's a field day for the travel companies who can charge what they like. This was always bound to happen.

[Zacs-Master]

Aye. Might have a dish of cockles if I can find any ;-)

[Bobbisox1]

Bleughhh, snots on sticks, haha

[Zacs-Master]

Did you know that around 80% of lobsters served in UK (and some foreign) restaurants come from off the Bridlington coast? Well, they do.

[Bobbisox1]

I'm not a seafood( er) I know where my sister lived was famous for oysters though, if that helps ;0)

[teacake44]

Selfish applies to anyone who booked a holiday since the start of the pandemic, ( abroad) I said from the very start that flying on a plane is a bug nest for the virus, the travel industry / airline industry couldn't care a toss what happens to you once they've taken your cash, or returned from your holiday, they couldn't care less if you end up in ICU providing they've re-filled their bank. Don't forget who's got the job of trying to save your life, while risking theirs when you fall sick. The virus has not gone away, they need all the time they can get to find drugs/ vaccine to ease the situation, don't travel unless you have to. A holiday abroad is not having too, its just a want too. Tell that to the kids that have lost a mom or dad in the NHS, or have we all forgot, just because its what we want to do?

[Bobbisox1]

^^ yeah,you said , yawn

[Apc2604]

I love the North Yorkshire coast ZM. Spent many happy days there. Same grey weather here on the North Norfolk Coast.

[New Judge]

OK teacake, let’s have a look at this then.

I’m visiting Cornwall for a few days early next month. I booked it after the lockdown of pubs etc. ended. I was encouraged to do so by the government in order to get the economy moving. So I did my bit. Booked a room in a pub, booked to visit a local popular attraction (with a timed entry slot), booked a decent restaurant for one of my evenings there. Now, if I had been going to Aberdeen, Leicester, Oldham or somewhere else where the government has decided that new cases have “soared” (i.e. increased from 0.0035% to 0.0045%, which will be correctly by disingenuously described as a “28% increase”) I’d be knackered and couldn’t go.

Yes, this is within the UK, but the same principle applies. People and businesses cannot continue to operate with this “now it’s open, oops, sorry now it’s closed” strategy. Life has to go on.

//Prudie, while I get it, I honestly do, one thing this government has been clear about is that EVERY SINGLE relaxation and opening has been and will be subject to reversal or change if its needed.//

Indeed they were. But they need either to get a grip or ship out and let somebody with a different approach take over. The reason is this:

//‘Until this madness is over’ presumes it will, one day, be ‘over’. What if it’s not. What if these spikes keep occurring? Will you be prepared to never travel abroad again?//

The virus will not be “over” any time soon. It will reappear in places where it was thought to be “eradicated” (NZ is an example); it will surge in places where it was thought to be in decline (Spain, Italy, Netherlands). And quite simply life cannot be put on hold for the vast, vast majority who will either not contract it at all or if they do will suffer insignificant consequences. Many of the places where quarantine is now required upon return have fewer new cases arising than many parts of the UK which I can travel freely to and from. The government does not have a “strategy” at all; it produces a collection of knee-jerk reactions taken with little thought for either the outcome or the consequences and no stated aim. It’s no longer a joke. We are being governed by a bunch of incompetent twerps.

[ToraToraTora]

ZM: "‘Until this madness is over’ presumes it will, one day, be ‘over’. What if it’s not. What if these spikes keep occurring? Will you be prepared to never travel abroad again? " - yes I would be prepared for that but I think, soon, society will come to its senses and realise that we have to learn to live with the virus and take practical common sense measures instead of following crackpot ideas from elf n saftee wombles on speed. We have allowed ourselves to be taken in by the jobsworth types who are loving all this. I mean take this face mask cobras for a start!

[Apc2604]

Teacake, as Tomus said. Have a change explore somewhere new to in the UK. To be honest, airports and flying these days is a complete nightmare that spoils holidays. And a year's break from holiday routine shouldn't be a problem for most people.

[Bobbisox1]

Or go to the riverbank with a picnic of sell by food and watch your bank balance grow

[Jackdaw33]

A suitable motto might be "Caveat viator". Let the traveller beware.

[Apc2604]

We were on the riverbank yesterday, Bobbi. It was too chilly for a picnic. Google images of Bintree Mill. We saw three other people. My idea of bliss!

[teacake44]

12.47 NJ, (Any) holiday booked at the moment is at risk of being cancelled or turned into chaos, that is very plain to see. But there's high risk, and low risk of either those two, my point is flying abroad at this moment in time, I see has high risk, and a much higher financial loss may be. I also understand that this situation of locking down can't go on for ever for all the reasons you've stated in you're past comments, or the stupid ideas this government keep inflicting on us, its got to stop sooner rather than later. But one thing I'm pretty certain of is that the selfishness of the few that insist on flying abroad for the rest of this year, is that their taking a very high risk to themselves, and may be others, and also reducing the chances of the education system re-opening in full in September, now that will be a disaster in its self. People who need to fly to conduct over seas business yes, holiday, just put it on hold, its not asking much, and yes I know what's its doing to the airline industry, we have no choice.

[teacake44]

12.56 You only need to watch your bank account if your daft enough to hand out money freely to a near on bankrupt holiday industry.

[Bobbisox1]

Just had my travel agent friend on the phone giving us the chance to defer till next year or wait to see what happens in September, we are likely to defer though, Mr B and I will discuss later over a few drinks in our local hostelry , social distancing from other revellers of course :0))

[Bobbisox1]

Yes TC lets all sit and watch with glee as the travel industry hits the skids eh????

[teacake44]

Ha Ha that's good timing for this thread, ye ye :0) some friend selling you a holiday in a pandemic.

[Bobbisox1]

Err I contacted her when there was an air bridge , do keep up

[Bobbisox1]

What does ye ye mean :0//