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Five Weeks Of Lies

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teacake44 | 21:39 Fri 17th Apr 2020 | News
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For five weeks now Matt Hancock has insisted that there wasn't a shortage of PPE, nearly every hospital and care home in the country was saying there was, he also insisted that it was a logistical problem only, and that was with 20 thousand army personal drivers ready to deliver. When the army joined us, we were told, this is what the army are brilliant at ( logistics ) ?

Today he says he wished he had a magic wand to produce PPE. When will Mr Hancock face up to the fact that the UK was oh so slow off the starting block, and the cost of that, was peoples lives, especially NHS lives. When will he start telling the truth, ( never).

They've also been telling us that we don't need to wear a face mask,(now their thinking about it), but waiting for the science to tell them. Common sense tells me that face masks can help stop the spread of the virus, if they didn't, then the rest of the world wouldn't be wearing them, or nurses wearing them in hospital or care homes, ( when they can get them) We all know about the top of the range mask that they need to wear in ITC, but the rest of the nurses are wearing bog standard face masks.

There are now UK manufactures pulling out all the stops to produce PPE, they say they have be ignored by Matt Hancock for weeks now, even after making it known to him that they could make what was required. How many more lives need to be lost before they supply the nation with face masks like every other country is doing.

I've changed my mind about Mr Hancock,( give someone a chance to get sorted,) he's had five weeks, and all we've had is five weeks of lies. Whatever advice he or the government give out, I for one will take with a pinch of salt, and do my own thing.

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teacake is definitely a gloom and doom merchant, as I have opined before, BUT I don't like Matt Hancock and don't think he's up to the job, so I agree with him here (for a change).
08:48 Sat 18th Apr 2020
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22.09 Spice, these people are supposed to be educated and be able to step up at whatever hits us, I know this is bad, but so is a nuke war, I dread to think the latter. My only hope is Boris getting back now, he's had a brush with death, so he may well have a different take on it.
I think it may have been a gamble Hancock's team had to take, Teacake if we, like other countries, were desperate for the testing kits, perhaps under pressure . If we hadn't bought them we may have missed the boat as some other mug would have snapped them up. Maybe he was acting on advice from the medical professionals. We may not know all these things until much later.
Teacake - do you think Boris has a secret stash of PPE that’s he’s hiding from the rest of the government?
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22.20 Now that's a bit silly again, is it not? if you've got a sensible point of view to put like the others, feel free.
I certainly would not like his Job TC
>these people are supposed to be educated and be able to step up at whatever hits us,

The same could be said for the medical professionals advising the government.

And there are some very educated people who have totally opposite views on what should have been done- some saying we didn't lock down anywhere near early enough, others saying we should have kept everything open and gone for herd immunity. It's the same with their views on masks, although most experts seemed to be against them but some are now bit more open minded
Ill placed, I didn’t realise this was in news.
Operation Cygnus in 2016, the report for which was buried by the May government, highlighted all of the weaknesses in the NHS but no action was taken.
Theresa May and Jeremy Hunt have blood on their hands.
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22.19 ff You may well be right, and I can forgive anyone for making a mistake in the present situation, and I may have done the same. but standing there telling lies is just not good enough, if he had come clean people would have understood, and made the most of what they'd got.
We've been over that on other threads, Theland. I'm sure that will be covered by the enquiry but some involved have said Cygnet was based on a flu epidemic and was not comparable. But how do we know we haven't adapted some of the ideas. The Chancellor's plans for example were developed really quickly and may have been already prepared in outline
Owning up earns Brownie points. Covering up earns the other brown.
Thanks TC, but I accept I may also be wrong. It's just not possible for us to know all the details and reasoning at this stage, so continually slagging the government off or saying it's done a wonderful job seems unwise at the moment.
I'm still not sure what lies you think Hancock has told.
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Well all I can say about masks now are, if someone sneezes or coughs not far from me is, I'd rather that they be wearing a mask, than the government advice of, doing it in your inner elbow, that's a joke!!
Watched the Movie "Contagion" the other night about the same thing happening in America in 2011,looked to me a lot of what they did has been implemented here, Coincidence?
Until there is a vaccine, I think everyone will inevitably catch this at some point whether they're wearing PPE or not unless they can literally never leave their house or come into contact with anyone else indefinitely.

The lockdown thing has always been about making sure that we don't all catch it at the same time and overload the system. It's not going to mean that you never catch it.

Sorry if that sounds depressing. The good news is that the majority of people that catch it do survive.
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Well I'm off for a stiff brandy.
Good idea teacake. I think I'll join you.
I'm off to bed. If I dream of Hancock wearing a mask I'll blame you Teacake. Goodnight
Jesus, must we put up with the ramblings and Lord Haw Haw rhetoric of our Band D members of society?

I mean it’s lovely that social media has given them a voice but Holy Christ please let’s not take them seriously.
bit of a long post to ask the question
how can you tell if a politician is lying ?

you can see his lips move

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