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Labour Leadership Contest
Looks like Momentum are flexing their muscles.
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If this Corbyn clone were to win, is it safe to assume Labour may as well give-up any pretence that they've got any hope at all of winning the next GE?
This is a woman who said Corbyn's leadership was "10 out of 10", who said of Labour's absurd manifesto pledges “[I didn't] just agree with the policies, I’ve spent the last four years writing them”, and has already been caught out telling lies vis her growing-up watching her father worry about redundancy from Salford Docks - even though she was only 2 when the docks closed.
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If this Corbyn clone were to win, is it safe to assume Labour may as well give-up any pretence that they've got any hope at all of winning the next GE?
This is a woman who said Corbyn's leadership was "10 out of 10", who said of Labour's absurd manifesto pledges “[I didn't] just agree with the policies, I’ve spent the last four years writing them”, and has already been caught out telling lies vis her growing-up watching her father worry about redundancy from Salford Docks - even though she was only 2 when the docks closed.
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Five years is a long looooong long time in politics.
Socialists are convinced that we are all closet socialists and TBH over time they will convince more and more they are right.
Catch the young, disenfranchised and poor and socialism seems very appealing.
But there are two truths to socialism that seem to be very true.
1. You eventually run out of other people’s money.
2. Only people that have not lived through a socialist society believe in socialism.
Socialists are convinced that we are all closet socialists and TBH over time they will convince more and more they are right.
Catch the young, disenfranchised and poor and socialism seems very appealing.
But there are two truths to socialism that seem to be very true.
1. You eventually run out of other people’s money.
2. Only people that have not lived through a socialist society believe in socialism.
Ms L-B has been so widely named as the "Corbyn continuity candidate" that the ordinary punter (those of us whose votes matter!) will regard Labour under her leadership as NO CHANGE & therefore just as unelectable as it was under Corbyn.
The party is so deeply divided I don't think there is a leadership candidate that can properly unite it & it won't survive in its present form.
The party is so deeply divided I don't think there is a leadership candidate that can properly unite it & it won't survive in its present form.
casse: "But there are two truths to socialism that seem to be very true.
1. You eventually run out of other people’s money.
2. Only people that have not lived through a socialist society believe in socialism. " - I would add:
3) in order to have the money spent in 1) someone has to create it, socialism is the kryptonite of wealth generation.
1. You eventually run out of other people’s money.
2. Only people that have not lived through a socialist society believe in socialism. " - I would add:
3) in order to have the money spent in 1) someone has to create it, socialism is the kryptonite of wealth generation.
// Given Corbyn's disastrous performance why do they think more of the same will work? //
Momentum are mainly concerned with maintaining ownership of the Labour party. Although they would not be averse to winning an election, it would be seen purely as a bonus, and not actually the end of the world if it never happened again.
I'm not making this up. I've had this view expressed to me by loony lefties that I actually know. They hate the right wing of their own party more than they hate the Tories.
Corbyn's language gave it away when he talked about Labour being the 'resistance' and 'winning the argument'.
Momentum are mainly concerned with maintaining ownership of the Labour party. Although they would not be averse to winning an election, it would be seen purely as a bonus, and not actually the end of the world if it never happened again.
I'm not making this up. I've had this view expressed to me by loony lefties that I actually know. They hate the right wing of their own party more than they hate the Tories.
Corbyn's language gave it away when he talked about Labour being the 'resistance' and 'winning the argument'.
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