Should She Be Sacked?

[Bobbisox1]

Khafi Kareem ,a Met police officer asked for leave to go to Nigeria ( to take part in their version of Big Brither ) her request was turned down but she went anyway, whilst there she had sex with another housemate live on TV
My opinion, Yes she should be sacked,if you ask your employer for time off and you take it anyway , isn't that gross misconduct ?

[tiggerblue10]

If she took unpaid leave to do this then fair enough, however, what will happen when she returns and faces her co-workers? Pretty sure they will have opinions to voice and she could end up being the subject of banter and possibly ridicule over her actions.

[spathiphyllum]

"Should have gone to Specsavers!"

11:04 Wed 14th Aug 2019

[woofgang]

tiggerblue, it doesn't matter whether it was unpaid or not. Extended leave doesn't necessarily mean unpaid, it means more taken at once than is normally allowed.

[Togo]

Perhaps the met were upset that she allowed photographs of herself, in uniform, to be used for "promoting" the tawdry show. I think that the met should be forced to retain her.....They chose her, promoted her as an example of their new and exciting diversity policy, and were happy to endorse her "outgoing" behaviour when it suited their purpose. She has hardly made them look any more foolish than they have been making themselves appear in their pc flag waving drive to prove how accepting and "woke " they are.

[Prudie]

Yes I do because basically she lied to her employers after having been refused permission to go on the show. I gather those who watch it are well aware she is a member of the UK Met Police. Do we want people who lie to their superiors as our upholders of the law? The sex bit is irrelevant (to me). And as for her skills - so what? If skills keep you above the law then presumably doctors etc can commit whatever crimes they like.

[woofgang]

Prudie did she lie? the article isn't clear.

[Prudie]

No it isn't but from what I can interpret she asked for permission, they said no and then she requested leave to apparently do something else. TBH at the moment I can't find anything else about the story apart from the metro link supplied.

[dannyk13]

Spath 11.04
// Where off duty conduct is in question, this will be measured against the generally accepted standards of the day."//

[Khandro]

Whether she is a police officer or a shelf- stacker in Asda has nothing to do with it (nor what she did on TV)
Her boss refused her leave & she went AWOL so she should be sacked.

[Bobbisox1]

Woof I've read and reread the article and it is a bit clouded, I admit

[Bobbisox1]

Much the same Prudie

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49328920

[teacake44]

In short, for a British police officer, who we look upon to be responsible that allow a film crew to film her having sex on TV is very wrong, and should not any longer hold that job.

[spathiphyllum]

"If skills keep you above the law then presumably doctors etc can commit whatever crimes they like."

She didn't break the law.

[Khandro]

//She didn't break the law.//

She broke the "law" of her job; when your boss refuses your request for leave & you refuse to accept that decision, you forfeit your right to that position.

[spathiphyllum]

The boss refused her to go on the show... Her leave was approved.

[woofgang]

I am still not convinced that she needed to ask for permission to do the show. Photos of her in uniform may well have been used to promote the show which I agree is dodgy but is there any evidence that she allowed this or could stop it? Its one of the things about the internet is that once the pic is up there, it stays up there and anyone can access it, download it and use it.

[Khandro]

//Her leave was approved.//

Then the OP is misleading

[Ken4155]

Spath; "The boss refused her to go on the show......Her leave was approved."
Her extended leave was approved only after she had concocted some excuse for needing it. Ergo, she lied. So the next time she is in court, giving evidence, the defence can call her out for being a known liar and her testimony is questioned. Whichever way you look at it, she hasn't done herself any favours, unless, of course, she wins the main prize and becomes a tv presenter on some obscure channel or another.

[Bobbisox1]

Yes Khandro, I accept that, I understand that she asked for leave but was turned down and then asked for unpaid leave but wouldn't elaborate on why. As Woof said, the actual article is very 'cloudy'

[Ken4155]

Woofgang, she would probably have needed to ask permission to appear on the show as it would have necessitated extended leave. Perhaps if it had been a show that lasted just a week, say, there wouldn't have been any need for permission.