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Was Trump Racist When He Suggested That If These Women Were Not Happy Living In The Us They Could Always Leave?
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I certainly recognise that speech.It sounds very similar to a highly praised speech attributed to Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard. This speech was denied and snopes said it was a HOAX. It went viral. It is strange no one turned a hair when it was circulated but then it wasn't attributed to POTUS was it? //: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT....
10:45 Tue 16th Jul 2019
Well I conclude that all the folks in the UK who are anti brexit best go over and live in Europe with their Continental friends,if you don't like the way the UK is going well go back to where you came from. Absurd! If you have a vote in the country you live in then you have the right to criticise the government as any other citizen does. Anything else is Fascism.
andy-hughes
/// A simple typo - we all make them, including you. As a matter of courtesy I don't pick up typos, including yours, in my responses, maybe you could think about doing the same. ///
I apologise, but for your information I did not realise it was a typo it was the two dots in between the U and the A that threw me, hence my query.
Perhaps you should consider getting rid of that 'short fuse' of yours?
/// A simple typo - we all make them, including you. As a matter of courtesy I don't pick up typos, including yours, in my responses, maybe you could think about doing the same. ///
I apologise, but for your information I did not realise it was a typo it was the two dots in between the U and the A that threw me, hence my query.
Perhaps you should consider getting rid of that 'short fuse' of yours?
naomi - // … Regardless of ethnicity …//
That's a little bit tricky, to leave out the concept of ethnicity as a defence, because it is precisely the concept of ethnicity that is the point the President was making and he used that ethnicity in order to be as offensive as possible - which is clearly the thinking behind the tweet in the first place.
If the President had said something along the lines of - if you don't like this country, go back to your own country, he would still be making a pointless observation, given the birthplace of three of the people he is abusing - but he deliberately invoked their ethnicity in order to be offensive to them, and about them.
So the idea of his point being made 'regardless of ethnicity' is something of a nonsense - that is his point.
That's a little bit tricky, to leave out the concept of ethnicity as a defence, because it is precisely the concept of ethnicity that is the point the President was making and he used that ethnicity in order to be as offensive as possible - which is clearly the thinking behind the tweet in the first place.
If the President had said something along the lines of - if you don't like this country, go back to your own country, he would still be making a pointless observation, given the birthplace of three of the people he is abusing - but he deliberately invoked their ethnicity in order to be offensive to them, and about them.
So the idea of his point being made 'regardless of ethnicity' is something of a nonsense - that is his point.
AOG - // I apologise, but for your information I did not realise it was a typo it was the two dots in between the U and the A that threw me, hence my query. //
Apology accepted - but for your information, if you are confused, ask - rather than jumping to a conclusion and then being snide about it.
// Perhaps you should consider getting rid of that 'short fuse' of yours? //
I think I'll leave the irony of that observation hanging - I am laughing too much to type accurately, and risk another typo for you to misunderstand, but criticise anyway ….
Apology accepted - but for your information, if you are confused, ask - rather than jumping to a conclusion and then being snide about it.
// Perhaps you should consider getting rid of that 'short fuse' of yours? //
I think I'll leave the irony of that observation hanging - I am laughing too much to type accurately, and risk another typo for you to misunderstand, but criticise anyway ….
//If you have a vote in the country you live in then you have the right to criticise the government as any other citizen does//
That does not give the right for certain sections of society who are given the privelege to abuse it. I give you Mayoral elections of Town Hamlets for one plus plenty of other elections oop North where certain citizens bring their culture to the forth and can't grasp the concept of only having one vote.
People flee,allegedly, their countries and embrace our democratic system unless the referendum vote is not the result they wished.
That does not give the right for certain sections of society who are given the privelege to abuse it. I give you Mayoral elections of Town Hamlets for one plus plenty of other elections oop North where certain citizens bring their culture to the forth and can't grasp the concept of only having one vote.
People flee,allegedly, their countries and embrace our democratic system unless the referendum vote is not the result they wished.
andy-hughes
/// First of all, I am not 'AB's expert on racism', as you like to refer to me. ///
And AB's expert on racism, goes on to lecture a fellow ABer on the concept of racism.
/// Second of all - the fact that you ask that question underlines yet again, regardless of your denials, that you do not grasp the concept of racism, or understand what it actually means. ///
/// First of all, I am not 'AB's expert on racism', as you like to refer to me. ///
And AB's expert on racism, goes on to lecture a fellow ABer on the concept of racism.
/// Second of all - the fact that you ask that question underlines yet again, regardless of your denials, that you do not grasp the concept of racism, or understand what it actually means. ///
AOG - // andy-hughes
/// First of all, I am not 'AB's expert on racism', as you like to refer to me. ///
And AB's expert on racism, goes on to lecture a fellow ABer on the concept of racism.
/// Second of all - the fact that you ask that question underlines yet again, regardless of your denials, that you do not grasp the concept of racism, or understand what it actually means. ///
First of all, I am pointing out something which you continue to demonstrate - that is not a lecture'.
Second of all, despite my protestations you are determined to label me as the 'AB expert on racism' despite any obvious qualifications on my part.
Since this notion exists only in your mind, I shall be delighted to join the rest of the AB community and ignore it.
/// First of all, I am not 'AB's expert on racism', as you like to refer to me. ///
And AB's expert on racism, goes on to lecture a fellow ABer on the concept of racism.
/// Second of all - the fact that you ask that question underlines yet again, regardless of your denials, that you do not grasp the concept of racism, or understand what it actually means. ///
First of all, I am pointing out something which you continue to demonstrate - that is not a lecture'.
Second of all, despite my protestations you are determined to label me as the 'AB expert on racism' despite any obvious qualifications on my part.
Since this notion exists only in your mind, I shall be delighted to join the rest of the AB community and ignore it.
AH, //naomi - // … Regardless of ethnicity …//
That's a little bit tricky, to leave out the concept of ethnicity as a defence, because it is precisely the concept of ethnicity that is the point the President was making//
You’re trying hard but you’re meeting yourself coming back as usual. I haven’t left the ‘concept of ethnicity’ out. Quite the reverse.
That's a little bit tricky, to leave out the concept of ethnicity as a defence, because it is precisely the concept of ethnicity that is the point the President was making//
You’re trying hard but you’re meeting yourself coming back as usual. I haven’t left the ‘concept of ethnicity’ out. Quite the reverse.
naomi - // AH, //naomi - // … Regardless of ethnicity …//
That's a little bit tricky, to leave out the concept of ethnicity as a defence, because it is precisely the concept of ethnicity that is the point the President was making//
You’re trying hard but you’re meeting yourself coming back as usual. I haven’t left the ‘concept of ethnicity’ out. Quite the reverse. //
The second sentence of your post at 11:30 - to which you have quoted my response, says "Regardless of ethnicity … ".
I am at a bit of a loss as yo how you can argue that you are not leaving ethnicity out, when that is exactly what your post says you are doing.
As to the notion of my 'meeting myself coming back ...' that sounds vaguely patronising, but it means nothing whatsoever.
I am addressing your points based on what you are posting - you clearly wish to divert from that process for reasons of your own.
My experience tells me that an 'Oh dear ...' is on the way!
That's a little bit tricky, to leave out the concept of ethnicity as a defence, because it is precisely the concept of ethnicity that is the point the President was making//
You’re trying hard but you’re meeting yourself coming back as usual. I haven’t left the ‘concept of ethnicity’ out. Quite the reverse. //
The second sentence of your post at 11:30 - to which you have quoted my response, says "Regardless of ethnicity … ".
I am at a bit of a loss as yo how you can argue that you are not leaving ethnicity out, when that is exactly what your post says you are doing.
As to the notion of my 'meeting myself coming back ...' that sounds vaguely patronising, but it means nothing whatsoever.
I am addressing your points based on what you are posting - you clearly wish to divert from that process for reasons of your own.
My experience tells me that an 'Oh dear ...' is on the way!
AOG - // Spicerack
/// It does, Naomi. Spath, and others on here, think shutting down free speech is just dandy. ///
Isn't that is what some are trying to do to Trump?
And as the President of the most powerful country in the World, he has just as much right to speak freely as those who try to stifle him. //
Indeed he does, but I must wearisomely point out the age-old adage - "Free speech does not entitle you falsely to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre."
The President has every right to use the notion of free speech - what he does not have the right to do is to use that right to abuse and offend people with whom he disagrees.
As a citizen of a free country, he should be fully aware of his responsibilities in this area, and as the President of the USA, he should be leading by example.
/// It does, Naomi. Spath, and others on here, think shutting down free speech is just dandy. ///
Isn't that is what some are trying to do to Trump?
And as the President of the most powerful country in the World, he has just as much right to speak freely as those who try to stifle him. //
Indeed he does, but I must wearisomely point out the age-old adage - "Free speech does not entitle you falsely to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre."
The President has every right to use the notion of free speech - what he does not have the right to do is to use that right to abuse and offend people with whom he disagrees.
As a citizen of a free country, he should be fully aware of his responsibilities in this area, and as the President of the USA, he should be leading by example.
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