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ludwig | 02:34 Fri 15th Mar 2019 | News
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The people wanted it. Their elected representatives didn't. Isn't that the whole problem?
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Gromit... autocorrect, sorry.
^Yep.
On the issue of turnout, at least, I agree with pixie and Naomi.
Good grief! We’re not back to this again surely!? (Instead of putting his clocks forward an hour for Summertime, NJ turns his back 33 months):

“About half of the people voted, and about half of them wanted it;…”

72% of them voted and 52% of those wanted it.

“A minority of the electorate wanted to leave so that should have knocked the whole idea of leaving on the head.”

Er… but an even smaller minority wanted to remain, so surely that should have knocked that idea on the head even harder (unless, of course, you count those who couldn’t be bothered to vote as wanting to remain, which is logically flawed).

“These elected representatives were voted in AFTER the referendum,…”

Indeed they were. And 80% of those elected stood on a manifesto of facilitating the UK’s departure from the EU. They knew what was required of them before they stood.

The plain fact is that most MPs are dishonest. They were elected under false pretences as they stood on a manifesto, the principle pledge of which they had no intention of fulfilling. They voted by quite a margin to reject the only deal on offer (which I believe they were right in doing as it did not actually involve leaving other than in name). But then then decided (under the guise of "acting in the country's interest") that leaving after all was a bit too risky and presented more problems than their scarce talents would enable them to cope with.
Pm gets lots of chances (3 coming up ) voters get one .Aye tell us about
The point Gromit making is poor.

The majority of those that voted voted to leave. There is nothing to suggest those that didn't vote would have voted to remain.
Deskdiary, You have to forgive Gromit and a few others around here. I think all the spinning they do makes them dizzy.
// Isn't that the whole problem? //

Part of the problem is that two thirds of the Government voted against their Prime Minister.
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Depending which vote you refer to, 2/3rds should've rejected the anti-Brexit deal and were right to do so. Coming back with an anti-Brexit deal and having 3 votes on it is part of the problem.
You can forgive anyone you like, the fact is we ain't leaving on the 29th March, DIZZY, eh.
diddydo
Balderdash.
The problem is- they asked a question and got an answer they didn't want and weren't expecting. That means they have to do some actual work and that has never happened before :-)
There's no certainty of that. A rejected request for an extension still has the 29th as leaving date.
Gulliver, // we ain't leaving on the 29th March//
If May's deal is not acceptable we are leaving on the 29th March.
The current state of affairs is that:

1. If May's deal is accepted we will apply for a short extension until around May/June this year.
2. If May's deal is rejected (again) then we will apply for an extension probably until sometime towards or beyond the end of 2019.
3. But both of these applications rely on the EU agreeing. They may not.
4. If the EU don't agree then the default position of leaving on 29th March becomes more of an issue.
5. But even then, emergency legislation that will allow the UK to unilaterally withdraw a50 notification may or may not be passed. And if it is passed then we don't leave on 29th March after all.

I don't know how far down the chain we get. At the moment it looks likely that May's deal will be rejected for a third time. But to say that we *are* leaving on 29th March (if May's deal is rejected) is wrong. Nothing is so certain.
It's quite clear that that the people who run this site are Brexiters.
Biggest laugh I've had in ages, diddly :)
Jim, the EU will only grant an extension if there ia a solid reason for that application.To say that leaving on the 29th March is wrong is your opinion, but not necessarily true.
diddlydo, and it is quite clear that you are a Remainer.

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