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Robinson Sued
// Lawyers representing a Syrian boy who was attacked at school have served a legal letter at Tommy Robinson’s home in an attempt to sue him for defamation.
The anti-Islam activist posted a series of videos and Facebook posts about the incident in October.
The suspect, a 16-year-old boy, has been summonsed to court for alleged assault.
The teenager had shared numerous posts from Mr Robinson’s Facebook account in the months before the incident, as well as from Britain First and other far-right accounts. //
One of the drawbacks of accepting £millions in donations from gullible far right but jobs, he is now worth suing.
The anti-Islam activist posted a series of videos and Facebook posts about the incident in October.
The suspect, a 16-year-old boy, has been summonsed to court for alleged assault.
The teenager had shared numerous posts from Mr Robinson’s Facebook account in the months before the incident, as well as from Britain First and other far-right accounts. //
One of the drawbacks of accepting £millions in donations from gullible far right but jobs, he is now worth suing.
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vetuste - // On the other hand, a thread which tries to analyse the crime and its causes attracts zilch attention from this set of posters.
And that, dear readers, explains exactly how and why the rape of under-age girls was known about and permitted for so long: all the relevant authorities in Rotherham (as just one example out of dozens) thought that hating the Tommy Robinsons and rejecting all their accusations (even when known to be true) was more important than protecting twelve-year old girls. //
That sort of simplistic logic is the nonsense that allows idiots like 'Tommy Robinson' to thrive.
'Tommy' says - "The issue is this simple, and the solution is even simpler …" and his followers, who adore simplicity because anything not simple is utterly beyond their limited comprehension, all nod and grunt and pay money and march and make a stupid noise and affect nothing whatsoever.
If you really think that anyone simply ignored everything, and then acted only, and because 'Tommy Robinson' piped up, then I would suggest that your grasp of the reality of complex social situations is as basic and naïve as his.
And that, dear readers, explains exactly how and why the rape of under-age girls was known about and permitted for so long: all the relevant authorities in Rotherham (as just one example out of dozens) thought that hating the Tommy Robinsons and rejecting all their accusations (even when known to be true) was more important than protecting twelve-year old girls. //
That sort of simplistic logic is the nonsense that allows idiots like 'Tommy Robinson' to thrive.
'Tommy' says - "The issue is this simple, and the solution is even simpler …" and his followers, who adore simplicity because anything not simple is utterly beyond their limited comprehension, all nod and grunt and pay money and march and make a stupid noise and affect nothing whatsoever.
If you really think that anyone simply ignored everything, and then acted only, and because 'Tommy Robinson' piped up, then I would suggest that your grasp of the reality of complex social situations is as basic and naïve as his.
If you really think that anyone simply ignored everything, and then acted only, and because 'Tommy Robinson' piped up, then I would suggest that your grasp of the reality of complex social situations is as basic and naïve as his.
Almost correct.
The authorities simply ignored everything, and then acted only, and because 'Andrew Norfolk' piped up. (Despite the authorities trying to get an injunction on him)
I still want to know why some coppers, councillors and so-called child welfare officers have not been dragged to the courts.
Almost correct.
The authorities simply ignored everything, and then acted only, and because 'Andrew Norfolk' piped up. (Despite the authorities trying to get an injunction on him)
I still want to know why some coppers, councillors and so-called child welfare officers have not been dragged to the courts.
Talbot - // I still want to know why some coppers, councillors and so-called child welfare officers have not been dragged to the courts. //
When you consider how high the responsibility, and obviously the blame, for the shameful absence of action goes, it's easy to see why the Establishment has a vested interest in ensuring that that particular ball does not start rolling, for fear of where it might roll, and their inability to stop it.
When you consider how high the responsibility, and obviously the blame, for the shameful absence of action goes, it's easy to see why the Establishment has a vested interest in ensuring that that particular ball does not start rolling, for fear of where it might roll, and their inability to stop it.
//When you consider how high the responsibility, and obviously the blame, for the shameful absence of action goes, it's easy to see why the Establishment has a vested interest in ensuring that that particular ball does not start rolling, for fear of where it might roll, and their inability to stop it.//
Then the shameful inaction is swept under the carpet by the Establishment because they worry whose balls will start rolling.
Then we condone that inaction by ensuring that the whistleblower is locked up and stifled. I see.
Then the shameful inaction is swept under the carpet by the Establishment because they worry whose balls will start rolling.
Then we condone that inaction by ensuring that the whistleblower is locked up and stifled. I see.
"Then the shameful inaction is swept under the carpet by the Establishment because they worry whose balls will start rolling."
I wonder why there has been no clamour for the resignation of the politician who, as Home Secretary in 2015, allowed a 15-year old child to wander through Heathrow with a stole passport?
Or the politician who oversaw the evisceration of probation services in favour of outsourcing firms, a move subsequently shown to have been a huge waste of 'public' (i.e. our) money and which led to an increase in reoffending, and who has gone on to throw away £33 million by awarding a ferry contract to Deliveroo (I'm sure I heard that right), and replaced train timetables with random numbers that rearrange themselves more frequently than Hogwarts' staircases?
I wonder why there has been no clamour for the resignation of the politician who, as Home Secretary in 2015, allowed a 15-year old child to wander through Heathrow with a stole passport?
Or the politician who oversaw the evisceration of probation services in favour of outsourcing firms, a move subsequently shown to have been a huge waste of 'public' (i.e. our) money and which led to an increase in reoffending, and who has gone on to throw away £33 million by awarding a ferry contract to Deliveroo (I'm sure I heard that right), and replaced train timetables with random numbers that rearrange themselves more frequently than Hogwarts' staircases?
retrocop - // Then we condone that inaction by ensuring that the whistleblower is locked up and stifled. I see. //
If you really believe that 'Tommy Robinson' is seen by the establishment as a serious threat to their safety and security, then you clearly believe him to be as powerful and influential as he does.
But of course, belief is not the same as fact - and 'Tommy' is not a threat to anyone who really should be discovered and exposed in this whole horrible business.
'Tommy' gets locked up and 'stifled' because he is either too stupid to believe that he can actually rise above the law, which I doubt, or that he really does believe his own hype, and that it makes him untouchable - which clearly it does not.
'Tommy' and his followers would love to believe that action against him is a shadowy plot to shut him up because is message is too powerful to be allowed.
The reality is that he is a windbag with a seriously over-inflated and unjustified impression of his importance in the world, and he trips himself up by breaking obvious rules - most of them enshrined in law - and is punished accordingly.
If you really believe that 'Tommy Robinson' is seen by the establishment as a serious threat to their safety and security, then you clearly believe him to be as powerful and influential as he does.
But of course, belief is not the same as fact - and 'Tommy' is not a threat to anyone who really should be discovered and exposed in this whole horrible business.
'Tommy' gets locked up and 'stifled' because he is either too stupid to believe that he can actually rise above the law, which I doubt, or that he really does believe his own hype, and that it makes him untouchable - which clearly it does not.
'Tommy' and his followers would love to believe that action against him is a shadowy plot to shut him up because is message is too powerful to be allowed.
The reality is that he is a windbag with a seriously over-inflated and unjustified impression of his importance in the world, and he trips himself up by breaking obvious rules - most of them enshrined in law - and is punished accordingly.
Naomi - // If by the most remote of possibilities anyone was in any doubt about the veracity of vetuste_ennemi’s excellent post at 22:05 Tue, andy-hughes’ recent deliberations here have rendered it unquestionably accurate. //
That's just your opinion, and like every opinion expressed on here, it is not, and never will be unquestionable.
Feel free to question my posts any time, but you are not entitled to simply dismiss them because you don't agree with them - that's not how debate operates, and I think you know that.
That's just your opinion, and like every opinion expressed on here, it is not, and never will be unquestionable.
Feel free to question my posts any time, but you are not entitled to simply dismiss them because you don't agree with them - that's not how debate operates, and I think you know that.
Naomi - // ah, //you are not entitled to simply dismiss them because you don't agree with them //
Actually, I am. //
Fine - that says a lot more about your inability to argue from a position of strength, than it counters what I have said, so I will look forward to no further responses from you to what I have said.
Actually, I am. //
Fine - that says a lot more about your inability to argue from a position of strength, than it counters what I have said, so I will look forward to no further responses from you to what I have said.
andy-hughes: "The reality is that he is a windbag with a seriously over-inflated and unjustified impression of his importance in the world, and he trips himself up by breaking obvious rules - most of them enshrined in law - and is punished accordingly."
What worries me in the middle of all this is the possibility that TR has become such a cartoon villain that he causes the very issue he claims to battle.
Even rational thinkers can sometimes look at a full inbox and sort quickly by throwing away anything in green ink, anything with a hilarious and unique twist on their name to make them sound crooked, or anything from Tommy Robinson.
Statistics suggest that he will say something worthwhile occasionally, like the monkeys with typewriters (although I don't anticipate Shakespeare), but he makes it so difficult. It's like accusing the whole of London of being Jihadis, then claiming victory when it is discovered that one of them once donated the postal order his grandmother sent him. Every time one of his broadsides scores a glancing blow, his supporters are shouting about cover-ups and conspiracies. When the other 99.999% of his work turns out to be rubbish, his cheerleaders close ranks and claim he is being stifled.
What worries me in the middle of all this is the possibility that TR has become such a cartoon villain that he causes the very issue he claims to battle.
Even rational thinkers can sometimes look at a full inbox and sort quickly by throwing away anything in green ink, anything with a hilarious and unique twist on their name to make them sound crooked, or anything from Tommy Robinson.
Statistics suggest that he will say something worthwhile occasionally, like the monkeys with typewriters (although I don't anticipate Shakespeare), but he makes it so difficult. It's like accusing the whole of London of being Jihadis, then claiming victory when it is discovered that one of them once donated the postal order his grandmother sent him. Every time one of his broadsides scores a glancing blow, his supporters are shouting about cover-ups and conspiracies. When the other 99.999% of his work turns out to be rubbish, his cheerleaders close ranks and claim he is being stifled.
Naomi - // ah, when you say something I feel is worthy of my response I'll consider responding. Until then, enjoy. //
Wonderful - that was nice while it lasted.
I live in hope that my views won't meet your lofty standards, it will save us both the tedious job of arguing with each other - which we do on a daily basis, so I must be doing something right!!!!
Wonderful - that was nice while it lasted.
I live in hope that my views won't meet your lofty standards, it will save us both the tedious job of arguing with each other - which we do on a daily basis, so I must be doing something right!!!!
JF85 - // andy-hughes: "The reality is that he is a windbag with a seriously over-inflated and unjustified impression of his importance in the world, and he trips himself up by breaking obvious rules - most of them enshrined in law - and is punished accordingly."
What worries me in the middle of all this is the possibility that TR has become such a cartoon villain that he causes the very issue he claims to battle.
Even rational thinkers can sometimes look at a full inbox and sort quickly by throwing away anything in green ink, anything with a hilarious and unique twist on their name to make them sound crooked, or anything from Tommy Robinson.
Statistics suggest that he will say something worthwhile occasionally, like the monkeys with typewriters (although I don't anticipate Shakespeare), but he makes it so difficult. It's like accusing the whole of London of being Jihadis, then claiming victory when it is discovered that one of them once donated the postal order his grandmother sent him. Every time one of his broadsides scores a glancing blow, his supporters are shouting about cover-ups and conspiracies. When the other 99.999% of his work turns out to be rubbish, his cheerleaders close ranks and claim he is being stifled. //
i think this is one of those fabulous posts that make Naomi's Top Ten - but I doubt if she will agree because it disses 'Tommy' and he is something of a cause of hers.
For the record, I think you have got it bang on.
What worries me in the middle of all this is the possibility that TR has become such a cartoon villain that he causes the very issue he claims to battle.
Even rational thinkers can sometimes look at a full inbox and sort quickly by throwing away anything in green ink, anything with a hilarious and unique twist on their name to make them sound crooked, or anything from Tommy Robinson.
Statistics suggest that he will say something worthwhile occasionally, like the monkeys with typewriters (although I don't anticipate Shakespeare), but he makes it so difficult. It's like accusing the whole of London of being Jihadis, then claiming victory when it is discovered that one of them once donated the postal order his grandmother sent him. Every time one of his broadsides scores a glancing blow, his supporters are shouting about cover-ups and conspiracies. When the other 99.999% of his work turns out to be rubbish, his cheerleaders close ranks and claim he is being stifled. //
i think this is one of those fabulous posts that make Naomi's Top Ten - but I doubt if she will agree because it disses 'Tommy' and he is something of a cause of hers.
For the record, I think you have got it bang on.
you could say tr gave muslims a proverbial stick to beat anyone who questions islam and its misogny fgm polygamy sharia etc, as its there culture.. in other words tr is a hate monger, who hates anything thats
not british and has been imported, but at the same time muslims can have marches with banners saying sharia for the uk, death to anyone who insults the prophet.
not british and has been imported, but at the same time muslims can have marches with banners saying sharia for the uk, death to anyone who insults the prophet.
fender - // ... in other words tr is a hate monger, who hates anything thats not british and has been imported ... //
Of course he does, otherwise he would be turning his attgention to white sex abusers, but of course, there is no mileage for his numbskull followers there - no 'British' man does such things, only dirty nasty foreigners.
Of course he does, otherwise he would be turning his attgention to white sex abusers, but of course, there is no mileage for his numbskull followers there - no 'British' man does such things, only dirty nasty foreigners.
