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spathiphyllum | 13:57 Tue 26th Feb 2019 | News
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Tommy Robinson has had his facebook and instagram account terminated. Facebook says he has continually violated its community standards with hate speech against Muslims.

Is you use social media in ways that violate their policies around organised hate then surely you're a bad person?
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10:14 Wed 27th Feb 2019
YMB - // Why doesnt Emily Thornberry use Lady Nugee? //

What makes you think anyone on here knows that?

Why does Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon use 'Tommy Robinson'?

Actually, loads of people on here know that!!
AH, for me it is far wider. You must be well aware by now of my hatred of trial by media. You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, that no longer seems to be the case and it is wrong.

As I said above, if he did it pass it to Plod and lets drag him into Court.
Does every married woman take their partner's surname?

Do they all use that new name for professional purposes?
AH, It was simply showing to Lefty Sandy that others may well use another name to hide the fact they are "posh". Nothing else. Personally I dont care.
What is defined by hate speech?

If it is exposing something that Muslims have done, do or intend to do that is wrong. That is not hate speech that is discourse and telling the truth and making ‘the wider public’ aware.

If he (or anyone else) make unfounded accusations, or incites to violence that is hate speech.

There would be a time (perhaps it’s still with us!!!) when posting about the Grooming gangs would have been classed as hate speech just by virtue of talking about it.

Criticism is not hate.

But as I’ve said previously I don’t follow anything he has done. This is more a comment on how loose hate speak is and how almost anyone can fall foul of it by virtue of disagreeing with someth8ng.
There is no need for any type of trial. Facebook have decided he broke the rules. There may have been some outward pressure on them, maybe not.
"Does every married woman take their partner's surname?

Do they all use that new name for professional purposes?"

1) No, but most do

2) No, geneally not. My daughter is still known as Dr YMB at work but she is Mrs NotYMB at home. It's what is on her qualifications - just makes life easier.
YMB - // You must be well aware by now of my hatred of trial by media. You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, that no longer seems to be the case and it is wrong. //

In law, yes, but in the media, where 'Tommy Robinson' lives and makes money - no.

The powers-that-be at Instagram and Facebook are entitled to terminate the accounts of anyone they wish, and I don't believe they are required to give a reason if they choose not to.

They have chosen to terminate the accounts of 'Tommy Robinson' - that's their right - it's part of living in a free society, surely 'Tommy' must applaud that?
"There is no need for any type of trial."

I disagree. He is being accused, at least on here, of inciting violence and hate speech. If that is so then he should do some bird.

It is trial by media - very dangerous.
He's been chucked off Facebook, YMB, not asked to appear in front of the Lord Chief Justice!
AH, disagree.

according to the lin -

"Facebook accused Robinson of "repeatedly" posting "calls for violence targeted at Muslims" and banned him permanently."

If they had just terminated his account I could agree with you. They have not they have added an inflammatory reason. If what they say is true hand it to the Police and lets see him in Jail - if he did it.
ZM, you an AH just dont get it do you.

They have accused him of Facebook accused Robinson of "repeatedly" posting "calls for violence targeted at Muslims". That is out in the media and, as you can see on here, people cling onto every word.

It is wrong to do this, hand it to the Police and let the law take its course.
YMB - 'Trial By Media', or more accurately here, 'Trial By Social Media' is the downside of the freedom of expression granted by social media.

Everyone is entitled to dump on 'Tommy Robinson', and he should entirely expect it, since he makes a lucrative career out of doing the same thing by exactly the same methods.

Live by the sword ...
In reality they have played into his hands. The sort that follow him will just be fired up by it.

Interesting to see you are ok with trial by 'social' media, perhaps we could dump all our Judiciary and go with Twitface instead. Should save a few bob.
YMB - // ZM, you an AH just dont get it do you.

They have accused him of Facebook accused Robinson of "repeatedly" posting "calls for violence targeted at Muslims". That is out in the media and, as you can see on here, people cling onto every word.

It is wrong to do this, hand it to the Police and let the law take its course. //

I believe I absolutely 'get it'.

'Tommy Robinson' has been hoist by his own petard.

Facebook are not required to prove anything - they can terminate his account because they don't like his baby blue eyes if they feel like it - that is their right.

It's part of the freedom of a democratic society that 'Tommy' is so keen on preserving, so surely he must applaud the use of such freedoms, he makes enough noise about fear of losing them.
With such a name is he really an aristocrat
"Facebook are not required to prove anything - they can terminate his account because they don't like his baby blue eyes if they feel like it - that is their right."

But they didn't did they, they used an inflammatory and potentially defamatory reason. As I said above if they just terminated the account then that would be the end of the matter - but they just couldnt help themselves could they?
YMB - // Interesting to see you are ok with trial by 'social' media, perhaps we could dump all our Judiciary and go with Twitface instead. Should save a few bob. //

I think you are confusing the time-wasting nonsense and self-righteous tub-thumping egotism of social media with the very real and vital legal system that keeps our society safe.

This is about hot air, cyber-garbage, and over-hyped sensitivity - all the tools 'Tommy Robinson' has used to parlay an imagined status and influence he clearly does not possess - and now they have turned on him.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
No, that is your great Labour MP Lady Nugee Sandy.

Robinson is just an agitator.

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