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spathiphyllum | 10:40 Fri 09th Nov 2018 | News
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"Brexit secretary Dominic Raab says he ‘hadn’t quite understood’ importance of Dover-Calais crossing"


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-dominic-raab-trade-eu-france-calais-dover-economy-finance-deal-a8624036.html
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To be perfectly honest all this bickering over spelling is irritating.

You know exactly what is being said because the posting is about borders. Sometimes like myself it is a matter of poor spelling and sometimes because of auto correct.

If you understand the question. Stop pulling people up on how something is spelt. It smacks of bullying even though it is probably not intended as such.

The only new referendum I would agree with is accept the deal on the table or leave with no deal because the vote to leave has been done.
That was rude of me. I was not aware of your learning difficulties. My sincere apologies.
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It's no worries

How do you feel about the Brexit secretary not understanding how important the dover - calis crossing is for trade/tourism?

And claims that "the Brexiteers hadn’t really thought through any of the impacts of leaving the EU"?
//To be perfectly honest all this bickering over spelling is irritating.//
It is also frowned upon by the ED who has ,in the past, requested that posters should not correct other posters grammar.
Posters' * :P

In all seriousness, though: surely this should at least give Brexit supporters reason, if not to change their mind, at least to finally acknowledge properly just how complicated this all is? All of this "leave means leave" guff, without fully understanding the consequences.

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leave means leave? I thought it was brexit means brexit!

If brexit means brexit.. Why do we need / want a deal with the people we wish to cut ties.. Oh yeah cus we need em
I see the School of spelling ,and Correction, are at it again.
… and danny and gulliver have inserted commas in the wrong place. What is the world coming to? :-)
whether people - of whatever side - believe a 2nd vote is necessary or desirable, whether it be on a deal or no deal or a repeat of the original, it won't happen. the act of parliament that provided for the first referendum made no provision for a second. the chances of a 2nd referendum bill making it through parliament, given the divided state of all parties on the issue, is nil.

general election maybe? again, those parties with a credible chance of winning enough seats to form a government are divided on the issue and would not put leave - or remain - in their manifestos.
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Maybe a vote on if we should have another vote would be democratic?
Leave or stay, its big mess. Your government are useless.
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Where are you from Anne?
//Maybe a vote on if we should have another vote would be democratic? //

maybe. but a vote on a vote would need an enacting act of parliament. it's not gonna happen.
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It all sounds very democratic
Glad you spotted my Deliberate Mistake Arrods, a Marks and Spencer voucher is on it's way . Enjoy.
Anne 11.13 Agree with you. Their Government is useless.
Hard boarders may refuse to pay their rent. Not a goid idea.

The EU never has needed to implement a hard border but threatens to do so for two reasons. a) to try to make difficulties during exit negotiations in the hope it'll stop it happening. b) they don't want the hassle of having to manage a special 'peace' case for part of their customs area border because it's effort for them and they don't give a guano about the Irish situation.
“How do you feel about the Brexit secretary not understanding how important the dover - calis crossing is for trade/tourism?”

I have no feelings about his lack of understanding whatsoever. All politicians are transient. They come, they go. One week they have responsibility for the nation’s health, the next for its transport, the next for its benefits system. It matters not one iota whether Mr Raab has a grasp of the importance of Dover-Calais any more than it matters whether the Health Secretary has a grasp of why a surgeon should wash her or his hands before cutting somebody open.

“And claims that "the Brexiteers hadn’t really thought through any of the impacts of leaving the EU"?”

The impacts of leaving the EU are many and various, some of them beneficial, some of them detrimental. Too much emphasis has been placed on the problems associated with leaving and the impact it will have. It is no use harping on about it. You do not do things because they are easy or decline to do them because they are hard. If it needs doing you should do it. The decision to leave was taken by the electorate and endorsed by Parliament - so it needs doing. However difficult it is and whatever the consequences may be it must be pursued and the only job the government has to do is to enable our departure and ensure that the UK returns to the status of a normal sovereign nation. The difficulties they face are caused by them treating Brexit as a damage limitation exercise and seeking to retain as many of the advantages of membership (with the obvious - and quite justified - insistence from the EU that in return we must retain many disadvantages).
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well the reason for brexit is to make our own rules, do what WE want to do.. So what the EU does, is surely moot?

How is the UK gov going to implement a boarder in Ireland? It would have to be a hard border.
All present UK political parties are useless. One large party in power can't find the gumption to tell the EU where to put their demands and lack of support, whilst the other large party is likely to bend over backwards asking the EU to forgive and rule over us. None of them is worth putting into government. But the nation may have got what it deserves since there were plenty of UKIP candidates one could have put into Westminster for a single term and yet the voters (as a group) didn't bother.

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