Well At Least It's A Start.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6295711/Drill-rap-gang-banned-Grays-town-centre.html

But if the police know of these gangs why doesn't the government mask it illegal to be a member of certain gangs?

[andy-hughes]

AOG, // I know from old that you take offence at being challenged by anyone, but I think that you are taking it a bit far by accusing me of being offensive in this case. //

I take no offence whatsoever at being challenged, I would not have lasted this long on this site if I did.

I do however take offence at your willingness to assume that my lack of verbose and hysterical condemnation of something equates to my support of it.

I do not defend or support gangs of any type or colour - I know that's not hysterical, but hopefully it is still clear enough for you.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // Nothing to worry about folks, it's just a group of disaffected teenagers who wish to bond together in an attempt to find some semblance of order and belonging in their lives.

Others would say that they are a bunch of drug running murderous thugs, out to make vast amounts of money all at the expense of those amongst us who wish to walk the streets in safety and who obtain their cash by working legally, five or more days a week. //

And others still - with the ability to understand that trying to out-self-righteous other posters is a waste of time, and that one explanation can lead to the other action, and the two are not mutually exclusive - would not continually rush to condemn a viewpoint which is not written with steam coming out of the poster's ears.

[-Talbot-]

and-hughes
Similarly, you fail to register anyone's objection to criminal behaviour unless it is couched in terms similar to the florid language you use as a matter of course.




I also haven't registered your objection no matter what terms it is couched in...where is it?

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // I would hope that working legally was a typo Mr aog. Nothing legal about most of these murderous including their parentage I suspect. //

Spoken like a dyed-in-the-wool Middle Englander!

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // I also haven't registered your objection no matter what terms it is couched in...where is it? //

It's in that file over there - with -

Gravity is still working
The sun rose this morning
Christmas is coming
It will go dark before morning
I am getting older a day at a time

Get the idea?

[-Talbot-]

Get the idea?


Oh yes, you once again are evading my actual question.



Cue more yawnfesty avoidance of the actual question.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // Get the idea?


Oh yes, you once again are evading my actual question. //

Clearly my response was too subtle for you.

Let me be clearer - in the same way that it will go dark before morning etc. etc., there are some things that you can simply take for granted in a civilised debate - one is the notion that unless evidence is offered to the contrary, I am opposed to criminal gangs of whatever colour.

I AM OPPOSED TO CRIMINAL GANGS OF WHATEVER COLOUR!!!!!!!!

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - be a dear - print out my last post, enlarge it, and then tape it over your monitor where you can see it, and then you'll be reminded every day, and we don't have to have this tedious exchange ever again.

OK - back to the thread ...

[-Talbot-]

Why are you mentioning colour in your reply to me?


My question had nothing whatsoever to do with the colour of a persons skin.


andy-hughes
I AM OPPOSED TO CRIMINAL GANGS OF WHATEVER COLOUR!!!!!!!!



That looks suspiciously like that was written with steam coming out of the poster's ears.


lol smiley face

[Old_Geezer]

"What about mother of a gang member? Would it be a crime to be friends with a gang member? Would a parent/sibling/youtube follower be considered a gang member?"

What's the present situation re criminals ? Then same still. No point creating problems.

[retrocop]

AH
No. Not speaking like a little Englander. Just echoing the words of a former Black president of the USA and ex P.M. David Cameron. They can see,if you cannot,where the problems lie.My observation, I still believe, about parentage , or lack thereof, of these thugs still is valid.
I doubt you will read the link provided but I suspect that to be par for the course if it doesn't gel with your mindset.


//retrocop - // I would hope that working legally was a typo Mr aog. Nothing legal about most of these murderous including their parentage I suspect. //

Spoken like a dyed-in-the-wool Middle Englander!//


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-black-father-crisis-cameron-backed-by-black-mums-and-organisations-6866612.html

[Theland]

There are too many Windrush and Grenfell to ever dare to mention their colour.
But let's call it out for what it is.
Black gangs terrorising law abiding citizens.

[retrocop]

Re 1910 post
Correction: //Not speaking like a little Englander.//
but what you wrote//Spoken like a dyed-in-the-wool Middle Englander!//

[Theland]

Nice house, nice price or nice rent, but smack bang in the middle of a black area.
Would you live there?
Come on! Be honest!
I wouldn't. I would fear for my family.
I bet this is Answer Removed.
Truth is often a first casualty.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // I doubt you will read the link provided but I suspect that to be par for the course if it doesn't gel with your mindset. //

Wouldn't I need to read the link, in order to estabish if it actually does 'gel with my mindset'?

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // Why are you mentioning colour in your reply to me?


My question had nothing whatsoever to do with the colour of a persons skin. //


Because - and this may come as a shock to you - other people read my posts besides you.

[Theland]

I DID say my answer would be removed!
Oh gawd! Free speech stops,at the door! Ah soddem!

[Peter Pedant]

// Perhaps a gathering of more than ,say,three people loitering to commit an offence or menace passers by could be introduced.//

eek - a sarf efrican import there !
wasnt Nelson Mandela kept under house arrest with such conditions
and the saintly Aun Syu Key
fat lot of good it did both of them

ccdnt be a room with more than one person

[Spicerack]

You can't expect andy to waste eye-bulging, mouth-frothing invective on stabby black men or rapey brown ones.
He has to save it in case someone mentions Tommy Robinson or the EDL.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Similarly, you fail to register anyone's objection to criminal behaviour unless it is couched in terms similar to the florid language you use as a matter of course. ///

The florid language that I use?????

Why!!! you are a past master at using such language, but rather than use it against these drug running murderous criminals, you use it against such persons as the President of the United States, Tommy Robinson and perhaps Nigel Farage.

So I ask you why don't you use similar words to describe those who are dealing in drugs also stabbing and shooting people on our streets?