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Transgender Conviction Wipe?

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mushroom25 | 08:57 Mon 10th Sep 2018 | News
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7217258/trans-offender-claims-right-to-keep-gender-secret-means-convictions-should-be-wiped-from-criminal-record/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-offender-seeks-to-wipe-crimes-as-aman-from-record-qfk5w68lb
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6148595/Criminal-fights-two-convictions-removed-record-transgender.html

the law is on Helen's side in requesting this - and yet the loophole in the law this would create is obvious.
...reason enough not to do it? or a price worth paying (the invisibility of the odd rapist) to ensure transgenders are treated fairly?
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all this TG cobras is getting out of hand. !
A dangerous precedent if allowed.Should be refused.
how to word this ............she is the same person inside who has committed a crime so no they shouldn't wipe her record .
do we know what "importuning as a man" means?
Acting as a rent boy woofy.
OP: "..reason enough not to do it? or a price worth paying (the invisibility of the odd rapist) to ensure transgenders are treated fairly?"

This is not an example of Transgender people being treated 'fairly' its an example of how Transgender people want to be given preferential treatment. Convictions as a man should stay on Records regardless of what sex the perpetrator decides they are in future. Rape is as much an act of violence and control as a sexual act, and this violence may not disappear just because a man no longer has (or wants) their penis.
The whole point of Equality is a level playing field and sometimes life just isn't 'fair'.
This all sounds mad. Can you get a record wipe if pre-op ? If so there may be a lot of criminal gender swapping back and forth. And I see those living as the opposite gender to what they really are, are allowed to keep it secret. I see some argument for that, but it could result in removing basic human right to not be fooled into a intimate relationship with the wrong gender, so clearly shouldn't be allowed. There should be a legal requirement to disclose what you're doing to anyone you're getting that close to. If there's a clash of interest, the rights of the individual not trying to fool others should take priority over the individual hoping to pull the wool over the eyes of others.
I would argue that, now she identifies as a woman, when asked if SHE has any criminal convictions, she can truthfully answer "No." Therefore any prospective employers need not discover her birth gender. No need to amend any laws, imho.
ken they'll ask "Do YOU have any convictions" - no one addresses anyone with "do he/she...." etc do they?
so soliciting then danny? In which case I wonder why there needs to be a gender specific version of the crime? Call it all prostitution.
its obvs too early for me.....I didn't mean "call it all prostitution" because that is legal in the uk....I mean of cause "call it all soliciting"
TTT; or, "One final question, HELEN, do you have any criminal convictions?" HELEN replies, "No."
Besides which, let's be honest, if you had a 40 odd year old conviction, it wouldn't hinder your chances of getting a job unless said conviction was for some heinous crime. Surely?
Woofgang, very good point. Soliciting is not gender specific. Actually rape isn't either and women can be accused of Rape , especially statutory rape. As I said earlier, this isn't about fairness its about preferential treatment, and its wrong.
woofgang; always intrigued me why the males 'rent' it out, while females 'sell' it. If you 'rent' something, you have to give it back but if you 'buy' it, you get to keep it, don't you? :-)
Ken, HELEN does have convictions, even though she was then referred to as HENRY it was still her that did it! S o she is lying.

Fred does a series of burglaries then decides he wants to be Freda - will his convictions be wiped?

Danny has 9 points on his licence then he decides he wants to be Danni -will his convictions be wiped?
AuntLydia, I don't drive.
danny you've been banned! lol! Change to Danni and get your licence back ;-)
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Danny, yes, but does Danni?
lol
Well ken, sex can be sold by renting out your body. All a matter of prospective.
No one really sells their body (maybe those who sell themselves into slavery, but that tends to be universally frowned upon).

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