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Oh Now She’S Uncompromising. Should’Ve Done That With The Eu At The Start
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As was suspected, a sell out and no Brexit.
Well done. We will be a broken country in no time because she has given the EU exactly what they wanted. Free trade and alignment. But got chuff all back in financial services.
Woohoo the remainers have ruined the country. Bet their glad now.
As was suspected, a sell out and no Brexit.
Well done. We will be a broken country in no time because she has given the EU exactly what they wanted. Free trade and alignment. But got chuff all back in financial services.
Woohoo the remainers have ruined the country. Bet their glad now.
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Gove could easily have taken the helm back in those chaotic days. So could Johnson. They didn't even let it get to a contest, they just abandoned it. They didn't take responsibility. Who else was there but Remainers once the Leave camp had all decided they didn't want to lead?
Fantasy seems like a perfectly accurate description to me for what Brexiteers seem to think is possible from Brexit.
Fantasy seems like a perfectly accurate description to me for what Brexiteers seem to think is possible from Brexit.
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O_G the reason why Remainers like May have ended up being in charge of the withdrawal is because all the Leavers promptly abandoned responsibility and passed up the chance to make their fantasies a reality
If that's true why did they take part in the last leadership challenge?
O_G the reason why Remainers like May have ended up being in charge of the withdrawal is because all the Leavers promptly abandoned responsibility and passed up the chance to make their fantasies a reality
If that's true why did they take part in the last leadership challenge?
Gove had little chance, all remainer minded MPs would likely vote for someone else, and his actions didn't endear him to leaver minded MPs either. Besides I'm unconvinced some weren't persuaded to back off for the 'good of the party' as I can see no other reason for that contest to go the way it did otherwise, with May becoming a shoo in.
Theresa May has spent the last 2 years trying to manage the result of the referendum and fulfil the ‘will of the people’ against her own instincts. Whatever you think of her or the way she’s done.
The brutal truth is referendum was one few expected to go the way it did and has left the government trying to manage a hugely difficult situation whose outcome is going to cause upheaval for years.
I think May has been weak but she’s been trying to keep her party united. To get credit she has managed to now get this far with Armageddon in the government and the Tory party not quite breaking out. At some point the extremists had to be met head on even at the risk of further blood letting. We cannot be held to random by them any longer. They claim to be the ‘voice of the people’ but it’s time that lie was exposed
The brutal truth is referendum was one few expected to go the way it did and has left the government trying to manage a hugely difficult situation whose outcome is going to cause upheaval for years.
I think May has been weak but she’s been trying to keep her party united. To get credit she has managed to now get this far with Armageddon in the government and the Tory party not quite breaking out. At some point the extremists had to be met head on even at the risk of further blood letting. We cannot be held to random by them any longer. They claim to be the ‘voice of the people’ but it’s time that lie was exposed
I don't see why anyone who voted Remain should feel any shame for continuing to believe that they did the right thing. I don't feel any shame for standing up for my own views and opinions. If, two years ago, the vote had gone the other way, I fully expect that Leave voters would *not* have shut up about it, and would have continued to believe in the correctness of their position. And why not?
A democracy is absolutely *not* a place where the losers have to shut up and abandon their positions. Quite the reverse: democracies as places where the losers are free to continue having their voices heard.
But enough of my pretensions to Churchillian rhetoric. The mistake Leavers are making in blaming remainers for cocking this up is pretty clear, really: it's not *our* fault that the UK started the process of leaving before there was a clear idea how to achieve that. If you wanted a hard Brexit then you would have to wait for it.
A democracy is absolutely *not* a place where the losers have to shut up and abandon their positions. Quite the reverse: democracies as places where the losers are free to continue having their voices heard.
But enough of my pretensions to Churchillian rhetoric. The mistake Leavers are making in blaming remainers for cocking this up is pretty clear, really: it's not *our* fault that the UK started the process of leaving before there was a clear idea how to achieve that. If you wanted a hard Brexit then you would have to wait for it.
YMB @ 8.36.
Treason May. What an apt name!
A ridiculously weak PM who has done nothing but cave in to the EU and the remainers.
It shouldn’t matter if she was/is a remainer, she’s supposed to be implementing the will of the people. I know the vote was close, but it was still a vote for leave.
This whole process has been much more complicated than it needed to be:
24th June 2016, Article 50 triggered, and the EU told “We will pay what we owe, and if you’d like to trade with us, then come and talk.”
A ridiculously weak PM
who got the job because the cowards who might have contested the leadership ran away. And let's be clear why they ran away: they knew perfectly well the job would be impossible and they didn't want to have to do it. They want to stab her in the back once she's done all the work for them, and in due course they will.
May is barely competent but at least she had the guts to take the job on.
who got the job because the cowards who might have contested the leadership ran away. And let's be clear why they ran away: they knew perfectly well the job would be impossible and they didn't want to have to do it. They want to stab her in the back once she's done all the work for them, and in due course they will.
May is barely competent but at least she had the guts to take the job on.
Except, of course, that (a) we *are* leaving, and it's the details that are in dispute, and (b) triggering Article 50 on June 24th was established as counter to the UK constitution by the Supreme Court, so it couldn't have happened, never mind shouldn't.
Leavers who follow the tone of Bigbad's post are apparently determined to ignore reality at every opportunity.
Leavers who follow the tone of Bigbad's post are apparently determined to ignore reality at every opportunity.
Then I look forward to the backstabbing, jno, although I fear it will be too late for the majority to get what they voted for.
And Jim, the day the leave vote was announced, you said ”I can't say I'm happy about the result, of course. I fear what comes, if nothing else because I didn't vote for it. But the turnout was strong, the margin of victory hardly slight, and the DECISION CLEAR. Under those circumstances, I should congratulate the victors, no?”
To which I said “I think you are being very magnanimous, Jim.”
I’d like to withdraw that statement, as your magnanimity was very short lived.
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You’ve done nothing but complain ever since.
And Jim, the day the leave vote was announced, you said ”I can't say I'm happy about the result, of course. I fear what comes, if nothing else because I didn't vote for it. But the turnout was strong, the margin of victory hardly slight, and the DECISION CLEAR. Under those circumstances, I should congratulate the victors, no?”
To which I said “I think you are being very magnanimous, Jim.”
I’d like to withdraw that statement, as your magnanimity was very short lived.
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You’ve done nothing but complain ever since.
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