Oh Now She’S Uncompromising. Should’Ve Done That With The Eu At The Start

[cassa333]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1015348342140866560

As was suspected, a sell out and no Brexit.

Well done. We will be a broken country in no time because she has given the EU exactly what they wanted. Free trade and alignment. But got chuff all back in financial services.

Woohoo the remainers have ruined the country. Bet their glad now.

[Bigbad]

Cope whichever way you see fit.
Which is obviously in a childish, sarcastic type of way.

[ichkeria]

We finally have a position. At long last.
The next bit is selling it to the 27. There was a vague idea I think that Barnier could be isolated from the member countries. Mrs May has apparently persuaded her cabinet that that is not a realistic tactic

[jno]

I look forward to the backstabbing

I repeat: all they had to do was run for the job when it was up for grabs. Instead they ran away. Don't look to cowards to save your country.

[jim360]

The thing is, a lot has happened since 2016 -- and why *shouldn't* I complain about it, since it's mostly been a confused and messy attempt to rush through something without anything even remotely resembling proper planning.

Rather than rushing, as you seem to think was necessary (but, as I've said, would have been illegal!), the government needed a proper plan for as many contingencies as possible. They didn't achieve that; it's not clear that they even tried.

Also the 2017 snap election was a rather stupid decision that has backfired spectacularly, and has left us with a leadership that can't even organise a proper rebellion. All of this is just harming the UK -- I don't think anyone can honestly believe that taking time to implement the decision sensibly and effectively would have been the worse path, as opposed to this chaos.

[-Talbot-]

We cannot be held to random by them any longer.



Quite right. Ich... and furthermore a jar of marmalade.

[Bigbad]

Is that you admitting the country needs saving?
I think it needs saving, which is why I voted for Brexit.

Yes, they were all weak, but all the other leadership contenders caved in too easily. I’ve always thought there was a reason for that which we weren’t told about.

[naomi24]

Jim, //Leavers who follow the tone of Bigbad's post are apparently determined to ignore reality at every opportunity. //

Bigbad isn’t ignoring reality. She knows as well as I do that we’re being stitched up – and the disingenuous know it too.

[anneasquith]

May is only in the job because no one had enough b"lls to do it. I hope their chances of ever being PM are lost forever .

[jim360]

BB's post clearly *was* ignoring reality by proposing a line of action that was, at every step, impossible or illegal, and usually both. That's what I mean about ignoring reality.

If we are being stitched up it's not because we're moving too slowly, but the exact opposite, and that's the dilemma that Leavers clearly cannot accept. And yet it should be obvious. Whatever your opinion of the EU, 40 years of membership have had a profound impact on the country and how things are run. Nobody can realistically expect that to be undone in a matter of months -- at least, not without causing serious harm.

[Bigbad]

"Stitched Up."
A very succinct way of putting it, naomi.

[youngmafbog]

If Theresa the Appeaser pushes through this '3rd way' which is not Brexit at all there will be no Tory Party to be PM from for a generation, so it's rather a mute point that one Anne.

[jno]

like I said, bigbad, it was because they knew the job was too tough, as it has proved. They want the top job - but only after May's done all the hard work for them.

[Bigbad]

And what would the EU have done, jim if we had taken that simple step?
Nothing, because there is nothing they could have done.

[youngmafbog]

"at least, not without causing serious harm. "

Project Fear MXV111?

Hard Brexit; short term pain, log term gain. It really is not difficult all the wrangling has been about trying to appease remainers who lost. There cannot be a deal with the EU they simply dont want one.

[jim360]

They would have survived, and our economy would have crashed, and the government would have broken the UK constitution.

Next question?

[ichkeria]

As I said before: zealotry of a very foolish order. There’s quite an amusing cartoon on the paper of Theresa May flying a blimp of Donald sorry Boris Johnson over Chequers - Johnson is on his own here. I think even the others like Davis and co are persuadable.

[Bigbad]

She hasn’t done any hard work, jno.
She’s given a few interviews chanting her usual “Brexit means Brexit” mantra, and then rolled over and played dead.
Just about everyone involved has made a cock-up of it, but as the PM, her cock-up has been the biggest.

[youngmafbog]

"They would have survived, and our economy would have crashed,"

Hahahaha

More Project Fear.

[dannyk13]

Big bad, The EU would probably found some way of vending its spite.Most likely scenario would have been to put an embargo on members trading with the UK.

[ichkeria]

If there cannot be a desk with the EU then that should make you happy: we’d crash out then