We Are All In This Together, Or Just Another Worthless Political Correct Exercise?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5267601/Army-advert-shows-Muslim-soldier-praying.html

[youngmafbog]

I've never really understood why the Army put these sort (PC Type) of adverts up.

You join up to kill people.

[naomi24]

Oh gawd!

[emmie]

let's hope they don't have to send him out to Afghanistan, Iraq or some hotspot, kneeling down and praying in the middle of a firefight, what next.

[youngmafbog]

That does raise an interesting point.

When the 'other side' are fanatical Islamists do they all stop to pray at the designated time or do they push on regardless?

[jno]

Christian soldiers have managed to get through wars okay since Milvian Bridge, so I don't see why Muslims shouldn't.

[youngmafbog]

As I understand it Christian soldiers do not have to pray at certain times whereas (especially the devout) Muslim does.

I could be wrong of course not really into religion it causes too much trouble around the world.

[emmie]

ymb
so it does

[jno]

Lol, you're looking to nuclear war with Korea and it's religion that causes trouble?

[Spicerack]

Turn the radio off so Mo can pray in peace. Lol, what a load of botox.

[KARL]

Is it possible that the Army needs to try harder because joining that particular enterprise is seen as less attractive than just about anything else ? So they try anything and everything to spice it up and beautify it. youngmaflob is correct, no matter how unpalatable hearing it may be for some.

A question I have been grappling with for a long time resurfaces. The received wisdom among many is that militant Muslims arrange to position themselves so they can indoctrinate children/youth at madrassas (a madrassa is a word used simply for a school in Arabic, not necessarily religious) and that the aim is to turn them into fighters against whomever they perceive as their enemies. The British military recently announced that they are going to increase their campaign of recruiting Cadets at schools in the UK - clearly in order to create a positive image of the military among children/youth (and their potentially joining).

I talked our son out of considering joining the Cadets at school (well, I basically politely forbade it) but his son is in there, much to my horror and my son is not greatly impressed - the parents are separated and my son has limited influence.

In principle, so far as the fundamental aim and the means toward it are concerned, what is the difference between the two recruiters (except "We" are better/holier than "They" - hold on, what IS the difference ?)?

[ToraToraTora]

I'd be more worried about whose side he's on.

[andy-hughes]

The army is trying to promote the notion that soldiers respect and support each other, regardless of religious differences.

Personally, I would have more of an issue with the dichotomy of putting your gun down while you pray as a Christian.

Surely there is a conflict of faith there, when you take time out from shooting at people to say prayers to a God which is based on peace and love?

[naomi24]

^God's on everyone's side .... allegedly.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // ^God's on everyone's side .... allegedly. //

As atheists, we are spared the daily grind of reconciling Christianity's perception compared with reality, but I do wonder how soldiers who profess to be Christian can shoot down another person.

[Kromovaracun]

How exactly are we supposed to fight Islamic terror without the assistance of muslims? This should not be surprising to anyone.

[naomi24]

Krom, //How exactly are we supposed to fight Islamic terror without the assistance of muslims?//

Why do we need Muslims to fight Islamic terror? That doesn't make sense.

[Mamyalynne]

I think it's important to view the whole of the campaign, then you can compare and contrast each topic raised.

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/british-army-this-belonging-2018-karmarama/1454470

[Kromovaracun]

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Are you serious?

We don't need anyone who understands the language or the theology? We don't need anyone to infiltrate cells or acquire information? We don't need allies from the cultures where wahhabism is prevalent or powerful? We don't need people to advocate non-violence?

[naomi24]

Yes, I'm serious. Yes, we need people who understand the philosophy (which from what I hear we don't have in great numbers anyway), but we don't need, specifically, Muslim boots on the ground - and the idea of advocating non-violence to Islamic terrorists is simply laughable.