Should The Grenfell Tower Illegals Now Be Deported?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/grenfell-tower-latest-updates-immigration-amnesty-expires-fire-survivors-deported-uk-a8185976.html

[erik2]

yes like all the rest,but it will never happen...............

[emmie]

what will they do with all the money that was collected, that is supposed to be shared out with the survivors of the tragedy. As well as the millions the government put up, surely some could now find themselves with a tidy sum, illegal or not, or to find a way to pay to stay..

[Baldric]

If they are found to be illegal then yes, get rid.

[Peter Pedant]

end of
yeah - - - end of !

[Peter Pedant]

yeah as Mrs Mopp down the road said to me:
burn 'em out and then chuck 'em out !

"it is lucky we didnt shoot the kids as they fled the burning building !" - she said
"screaming for their lives!"
I said (lying through my teeth of course) - "I liked the burning cross on the lawn in front of the building!" in sort of ironic jest

and she said - yeah like it? that was my idea ......

[Peter Pedant]

have people NO sense of humour?
this isnt a serious thread is it ?

[douglas9401]

Yes

[douglas9401]

and no.

[andy-hughes]

Peter - // have people NO sense of humour? //

Part of being an adult is knowing when something is a subject for humour, and something is not.

A thread about a tragedy where people died and people lost everything is not really up there with a side-splitting comedy-fest - is it?

[Peter Pedant]

oh yeah - I see - again.

now I am not sure that there is cast iron case in law for deporting illegals who ahve been harmed recklessly by officials of the state ( West Ken councillor - rich bustards all of them in case you were wondering ) but it certainly is justiciable
( something to argue about in court )

is that poncey enough ?

[emmie]

no it isn't something to jest about.. people died, lots have lost whole families, my sympathy is with those people.

[Peter Pedant]

yes part of being adult andie is to analyse ( correctly / validly or whatever )
and so we can distinguish if we think for one second about it - ridiculing a thread on AB or ridiculing an event from last year

just as two Jews ( zero mostel and the other one, Mel Brooks ) wrote a musical called 'spring-time for Hitler' - your mother must have told you that it wasnt a comedy about the death of 6 m people - but about post war history of the event. I daresay you said " that is VERY hard to understand mum" and she might have said - "well it may never come to you."

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yes andie - learn more

[douglas9401]

Maybe the yes/no part could run alongside the Hislopian wit of our Peter.
Much more scope for outrage when getting in about PP's ribs but AOG deserves an answer too.

[Peter Pedant]

what - we really want to discuss having incinerated 93 people whether we should deport the survivors ?
the ones who got thro the windows and letter boxes, dog flaps?

see my poncey answer then.....

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

/// now I am not sure that there is cast iron case in law for deporting illegals who ahve been harmed recklessly by officials of the
state ///

Tragic as it undoubtedly was they were illegals, no one invited them into this country or even housed them in the tower block.

Same as if they stowed away in the back of a lorry and they injured themselves in transit one couldn't hold the lorry driver responsible.

[NoMercy]

Yes, send them home.

[andy-hughes]

PP - // just as two Jews ( zero mostel and the other one, Mel Brooks ) wrote a musical called 'spring-time for Hitler' - your mother must have told you that it wasnt a comedy about the death of 6 m people - but about post war history of the event. I daresay you said " that is VERY hard to understand mum" and she might have said - "well it may never come to you." //

As usual, you are not making any sense.

First things first - I was fifteen when Springtime For Hitler came out, I didn't need it explained to me by my mother.

Secondly, if you can find a link between Grenfell and a satire about Broadway, and the workings of funding for shows, then it is not clear from your posts here.

//from the internet
black humour meaning, definition, what is black humour: a humorous way of looking at or treating something that is serious or sad. Learn more //

I am fully conversent with the concept of black humour thank you.

A film satirising Broadway is an excellent platform for black humour - a post about a tragedy on a website is not - that is even assuming that you are indulging in 'black humour' - which clearly you are not.

// just as two Jews ( zero mostel and the other one, Mel Brooks ) wrote a musical called 'spring-time for Hitler' - your mother must have told you that it wasnt a comedy about the death of 6 m people - but about post war history of the event. I daresay you said " that is VERY hard to understand mum" and she might have said - "well it may never come to you."

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black humour meaning, definition, what is black humour: a humorous way of looking at or treating something that is serious or sad. Learn more

// yes andie - learn more //

I will if you will - why not start with learning how to spell my name correctly?

[Peter Pedant]

// they were illegals, no one invited them into this country //

bamma lamma bamma - being illegal doesnt allow you to shoot at them (even in 'murica)
(OK in the land of the free - if they run away you may do)

nor does it allow you to negligently harm them ( lorry analogy - splendidly one-legged )

and it doesnt allow you to reckelessly kill them either

and it doesnt allow you to deport them so as to prevent them for suing for reckless injury

so yeah even illegal immigrant have rights
and will - even after Brexit !

[Peter Pedant]

not one legged
three wheeled
sozza