I Take It They Are Not Worried About Housing Then.

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there is a housing shortage in London, so instead of a pub they can make a few flats for the residents of Grenfell to move into if they want it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4763298/London-planners-insist-new-flats-gay-bar.html


Dave.

[naomi24]

Zacs, I think you mean I mistake your frustration for aggression - but perhaps you have it right.

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

//Do you know I have been in many drinking establishments during my long life, but I have yet to see two heterosexuals kissing each other in any of them.//

Really?

Not a kiss goodbye?

Not once?

I find that a little difficult to believe, but if that's your experience, I will accept it.

My point is that one of the functions of a gay-friendly bar is that young people can go out and chat up someone of the same sex, and due to the demographics of the bar in question, can be sure that they are barking up the right tree.

In straight bars, not only may the tree be wrong, but the you're likely to be in the wrong forest as well.

[whiskeryron]

AOG as A HUMAN BEING you can have a kiss or a hug from me at anytime mate.

[Zacs-Master]

You know it, babes.

[jackthehat]

///Do you know I have been in many drinking establishments during my long life...///

About 2 by the sounds of it.

Any display of affection....brief hand-holding, a casual shoulder-brushing, standing 'too close', using a pet-name/endearment, laughing/smiling whilst maintaining eye-contact can all mark you out as *a couple* and cause the more meat-headed of the patrons to display their antipathy.

[naomi24]

Zacs, Indeed. I think by now most of us can be in little doubt.

[Old_Geezer]

These days, what are gay bars for anyway ? Society has moved on. Whilst individuals may hold differing views, the general opinion of society is "live and let live" (and for many "let me live without you pushing your lifestye/agenda on me all the time"). By and large there is no need to hide away in peace in a club with like minded members, safe from those idiots wanting to commit violence on gay folk: probably high time that gay bar thing was left as past history.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// That's the point. In gay bars, you can chat up people in the (fairly) sure knowledge that you're not barking up the wrong tree. ///

How can that be when it was earlier said that straight persons are welcome to come into the bars?

[Mamyalynne]

If only attitudes had moved on far enough for that to be true, that there really was no need.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes Mamya, the 'enlightenment' is taking its time to shine on some.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

You wouldn't be showing a little bias could you?

[Zacs-Master]

If anyone can spot bias AOG, it's yourself.

[sp1814]

AOG

You saw the word 'fairly' in my post, right?

It's means that you can be fairly sure that the person you're talking to is gay.

Straight people go to gay bars, but not in the numbers which would make it statistically likely that the person you're talking to is straight.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

Not absolute tosh, just a different opinion to your own.

And that is not very hard to possess.

[sp1814]

AOG

Do you get the point that gay bars are a place where gay people can meet other gay people, chat them up etc?

It's what young straight people have been using bars (and formerly dances) for, for decades.

Young gay people are unlikely to hook up with someone at a Weatherspoons, because the the vast majority of people there will be straight.

And clubs and bars are where young people go to socialise. It's not all about copping off, but that's a big part of it.

Always has been.

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, I never referenced yourself in my 'tosh' post. Nice to see you associating yourself with it tho! Must have touched a nerve there.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

I wasn't talking about holding hands, casual shoulder-brushing, standing 'too close', (which isn't too hard to do in a crowded bar) etc etc.

sp1814 and I were talking about full on kissing and not kissing goodbye, has he later tried to tone it down to.

[sp1814]

AOG

Okay - kissing then.

Or showing any sign of affection.

However, the key point is that gay bars are where a lot of young gay people meet someone they end up forming a relationship with.

That's their USP.

It's exactly the same in straight bars. Young people chat each other up.

Gay people cannot do that in regular bars because of numbers. If you catch the eye of someone in a regular bar, it's more than likely that they will be straight.

If you catch the eye of someone in a gay friendly establishment, it's more than likely that they will be gay.

That's one of the reasons why gay friendly places exist. They are getting less popular but then again so are pub and bars in general.

[sp1814]

By the way AOG, if you drive past any regular bar on a Saturday night, you will always see young people snogging.

It's what young people do, gay or straight.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// AOG, I never referenced yourself in my 'tosh' post. ///

And I should be grateful for that, should I?

/// Nice to see you associating yourself with it tho! ///

I did not associate myself with it, I was simply addressing the accusation that you made towards some of your fellow ABers.

ie:
/// There's a abundance of it on here. Day after day. ///

/// Must have touched a nerve there. ///

Wrong again, your nerves may be a little touchy, but mine are 'made of iron'.