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"They" will soon be on Webbo, the apologists, making excuses for the unforgivable. You know the script,....we don't know yet, faulty lorry, the driver was ill, urgent delivery gone wrong, not allowed a stall at the fayre or made to feel unwelcome. Our fault for being us.
21:46 Mon 19th Dec 2016
The German press and politicians don't seem to 'get it'. Though it is right to express sympathy to the family and friends of those murdered and wounded in this outrage, but signing books of condolences (as Merkel and others publicly did) and making statements like, "we must all come together to support one another", just isn't enough.
When a body such as Islamic extremism declares war on you, you must see it for what it is, and fight that war.
T, the Driver, a cousin of the owner was dead after been shot in the Passenger seat, can not understand why this truck was not Tracked, they usually are today.
Khandro

/// but signing books of condolences (as Merkel and others publicly did) and making statements like, "we must all come together to support one another", just isn't enough. ///

*** 'These terrorists and their regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all freedom-loving partners.' ***

Donald Trump.
AOG; Yes I saw your earlier post. in fact, I copied it to someone an hour ago.
It's a good positive response, but it's only rhetoric of course. I wish to see a robust fight-back - something the Muslim world might understand.

My plan would be now, after this latest of many attacks, to straight away close down the largest mosque in Germany (I think it's in Cologne) for a period of 12 months, if there are any more attacks during that period I would have it demolished.
If attacks continue, I would continue with the program.
Well that's different to the ignore it and it will go away response, Khandro.
Khandro at 12.51. And how would you handle the inevitable civil unrest?
naomi; // And how would you handle the inevitable civil unrest? //

Isn't that what we have now? May I remind you that in the UK last week, a thousand Muslims demonstrating for Sharia law, closed down Belgrave Square.
Khandro

Now that is what I call a positive response, why should we continuously take the flack without coming back towards them.

Perhaps your suggestion would lift the so called "moderate Muslims" off their knees, and join us in our fight against the radicals?

One can dream.
Khandro at 14:05, to a degree - but I think your action might just exacerbate that considerably. Not that I disagree with you. I'm just wondering how you would deal with the inevitable result. Any ideas?
naomi; France has closed down quite a few mosques, four recently and talk of a hundred more, Finsbury Park mosque was once closed without great consequences. In Muslim countries, strong measures are taken against dissidents and understood.
Khandro, The mosques closed in France were, as I understand it, make-shift jobs; Finsbury Park was closed due to its suspected links to al Queda. Bearing in mind the recent influx of migrants into Germany, closure of the mosque in Cologne may well have a more adverse effect. I doubt very much what you call ‘dissidents’ would be quite as compliant as they are with the authorities in their homelands. That said, I’d support such a move. It's time to say 'No'.
naomi; The book preached from in every mosque in Europe and which is the foundation of all Islam is the koran, in which it says;
8:12 Allah will terrorize unbelievers; Muslims should behead them
“When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!’”
Pleasant dreams and sleep tight!


Something a little gentler, Khandro, but not exactly friendly.

"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

I slept very well.
n. Das gefällt mir (That pleases me) :0)
no foreign languages Khandro please
Nigh doesnt do them ....

report of a suspect being shot in Milan

http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2016/12/20/news/attentato_a_berlino_interrogato_nella_notte_migrante_pakistano_alla_guida_del_tir-154500269/

I only put that in as it drives the usual suspects mad [ madder then]
sospetto rilasciato means "suspect released" means it is a bit old
seems Melbourne has avoided a terrorist attack due Christmas Day !!
well they are saying the news agency is ANSA
but this is the latest
http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/2016/12/19/camion-contro-mercato-di-natale-a-berlino-diversi-feriti_c0f0cc26-1b9a-4fef-ac1f-d40ed862077e.html

eez brozzer says " if ee was radicalised then eet would have been during the two years prison in Eetaly. "
oops

also - which we in Britain have missed because we are an Island or something - Amri was spotted on various foreign CCTV systems making his way south ....


PeterPedant, //no foreign languages Khandro please
Nigh doesnt do them ....//

I actually ‘do’ several of them – but not on an English speaking website. Since it’s Christmas I’ll forgive Khandro though, both for his German here and for his Latin message to me on another thread. ;o)

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