Is Britain's Government Destroying Its Own Military To Appease Its Enemies?

[Khandro]

Elements of the British establishment in Whitehall think their own soldiers are "bad," and terrorists are "freedom fighters," according to General Lord Richards, former Chief of the Defence Staff and the UK's most senior military officer.

Over several years these ministers, permanent secretaries, generals, admirals and air marshals have been swept aside in pursuit of a corrosive drive to discredit our troops. It is the first time in history that any government has turned on its own armed forces in such a way.

The overwhelming majority are motivated by a combination of greed and anti-British vindictiveness by the Iraqi and Afghan accusers and by their British lawyers, using taxpayers' money.

This can only further undermine our national will to engage in future conflict in defence of our people or to support our allies, including the US, thus weakening the Western world. That of course, is the main objective of the politically driven lawyers and others involved in hounding our troops.

We can be sure that their motive for favouring enemy "freedom fighters" over our own forces is a desire to appease radical Muslims both at home and abroad, which infects so much of Europe's political elite and mainstream media.

It is vital for our country and the world that the Prime Minister ends this cowardly and dangerous cult of appeasement stands up for our Western Judeo-Christian values above all others and defends our soldiers with as much courage as they show in defending us. To achieve this, it is vital that the conspirators General Richards has named are identified and purged from power and influence.

Richard Kemp

[ToraToraTora]

not deliberately but for too long we have been effected by the anti British Islington set who hate us from within and inevitably that creeps into the civil service. Personally I'd double the defence budget and take it out of the WSS budget.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes at 13:42, what on earth are you rambling on about now? //

As you are fold of saying - don't be rude.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - //not deliberately but for too long we have been effected by the anti British Islington set who hate us from within and inevitably that creeps into the civil service. Personally I'd double the defence budget and take it out of the WSS budget. //

Once again, an opinion, to which you are absolutely entitled, and I am sure you would not wish anyone to absorb it as being factual.

Personally I'd take all the defence budget and give it to health - education - housing - anywhere but guns and bombs.

That - need I say, is an opinion.

[ToraToraTora]

So you would not have any defence andy?

[Gromit]

Tora,
I might remind you that the Islington set have been out of power for 6 years, and this man seems to be setting his opinions about the present, not the past.

Blair of the Islington set, was in total cahoots with his military and their was an unhealthy alliance. It was only when the wars were going badly that they began to fall out.

[ToraToraTora]

this is cross party gromit, the Tories have their share of anti British in their ranks.

[naomi24]

Gromit at 13:45, no, I don’t believe that Cameron and May are supporting our enemies, but I do believe there is some truth in //Elements of the British establishment in Whitehall think their own soldiers are "bad," and terrorists are "freedom fighters," //

andy-hughes, not rude - I asked you what you were rambling - and you were rambling - on about at 13:42.

[Togo]

It may be worth noting that Richard Kemp is not the source of this "notion", he is just reporting it. The source is // General David Julian Richards, Baron Richards of Herstmonceux, GCB, CBE, DSO, DL, ADC Gen is a retired senior British Army officer who was formerly the Chief of the Defence Staff, the professional head of the British Armed Forces. He succeeded Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup in this role on 29 October 2010// am man eminently qualified to have "notions and opinions" methinks. Having had of course first hand dealings with the machinations of Government workings.

[Togo]

There we go again take the defence budget and give it to the N.H.S. Is this the N.H.S. that the left brigade were boasting of weaponising not long ago in order to bring down the Government? Trite nonsense in reams once again today. Off out for a walk.

[naomi24]

Togo, //It may be worth noting that Richard Kemp is not the source of this "notion"//

Well said. I overlooked Zacs-Master's and andy-hughes' references to Richard Kemp.

[Zacs-Master]

and the OP?

[andy-hughes]

Togo - //It may be worth noting that Richard Kemp is not the source of this "notion", he is just reporting it. The source is // General David Julian Richards, Baron Richards of Herstmonceux, GCB, CBE, DSO, DL, ADC Gen is a retired senior British Army officer who was formerly the Chief of the Defence Staff, the professional head of the British Armed Forces. He succeeded Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup in this role on 29 October 2010// am man eminently qualified to have "notions and opinions" methinks. Having had of course first hand dealings with the machinations of Government workings. //

From my perspective, this changes nothing.

It remains an opinion, no matter the height of the source in the scheme of things.

[naomi24]

from the OP. //according to General Lord Richards, former Chief of the Defence Staff and the UK's most senior military officer. //

[naomi24]

^that was to Zacs-Master.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - //So you would not have any defence andy? //

I would not spend the massive amounts of money currently swallowed up by the military - no.

I would be willing to formalise a shared defence system with our allies - but the volume of money poured into our armed forces is, in my opinion, an obscenity

[Zacs-Master]

The Op is so confused it's hard to tell where RK's comments end and GLR's start.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, not rude - I asked you what you were rambling - and you were rambling - on about at 13:42. //

Using the word 'rambling' is rude - you know it and I know it - and if you have to have the last word about - then go right ahead.

[andy-hughes]

Zacs-Master - //The Op is so confused it's hard to tell where RK's comments end and GLR's start. //

I have just re-read the OP for a third time, and I remain convinced that this is utter nonsense, constructed by, and then quoted on by two men who should absolutely know better.

[Gromit]

The opinion piece comes from our friends the Gatestone Institute, a US Right wing think tank. We have discussed them on AB previously.
Richard Kemp, on the Gatestone website, is merely rehashing a BBC interview with Lord Richards, and then putting his spin on it.

You can see Richard Kemp's full piece here, along with other magnificent examples of biased reporting.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9181/british-military

[Zacs-Master]

A classic example of the OP not providing a clarifying link.