Now Milliband Sticks The Knife In, Is Labour Really Dead Now?

[youngmafbog]

Really not looking good now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801712/Labour-power-time-1930s-David-Miliband-warns-Jeremy-Corbyn-prepares-elected-leader-second-time.html

[ichkeria]

Hmm, cannot see that happening, can you? That would be a party shorter lived than the SDP. Labour will not split: no doubt some will get fed up, some will get hounded out of parliament by unelected party members, and so on
But if Corbyn does go down the road of deselection (which in fact he would never call for, he just "would not stand in the way" of his Cheka), then it's hard not to see the problems getting even worse.

The assumption, as we heard from the man himself in Panorama, is that hordes of first time voters and previously disaffected "core voters" are going to swing it for him nationally. I'd suggest that that is highly optimistic. Apart from anything else, many of the people he needs probably form a high percentage of the "disappeared" from the register.

[Gromit]

Ian't see all those MPs who went on strike as the opposition suddenly saying "Corbyn as been democratically elected again so we will work for him after all". So after this long stretched out pointless election process, nothing will have changed, nothing resolved.

A split is inevitable. On what scale remains to be seen.

[Baldric]

Mili who?

[Jackdaw33]

Mili, the friend of Mandy. The Dark Lord isn't saying much at the moment.

[ichkeria]

A split is not inevitable at all. As for the 170, a few have already said they'd go back in the shadow cabinet, most will continue to oppose. Many if not all will be happy to go along with elections for the posts, although Corbyn has shown no sign of either supporting or opposing the idea: another sign of his firm leadership :-) There is no future in a split though: there's one Labour Party, for better or worse. Probably worse, for quite a long time.
Maybe we'll see a realignment longer term affecting other parties. I predict blood on Tory carpets as Brexit unwinds for example.
And maybe there'll be deals and electoral pacts -- perhaps. Maybe even a few deselected MPs would stand as independents in their constituencies. I think thats as close as it would come

[Jackdaw33]

Any split would let the Tories through middle, as in 983.