David Miliband's 'solution'

Khandro | 08:24 Sat 14th May 2016 | News

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He wants to bring in more refugees from central Africa, what do you think?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/emily-maitlis-yes-david-milibands-radical-refugee-solution-surpr/

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Old_Geezer

Once you do such a thing then that's one more step to global anarchy, regardless of the good intentions behind it. Trouble brews up, isn't sorted, and the countries who are making a better job at getting on and prospering continually get inundated with mass movements from violent areas; those fleeing feeling they need to get away and get a decent safe life rather than find a way to come together and overcome the bad guys. (Granted they may need outside help faced with well financed military groups.)

The correct solution is for the world to find a reason to sort out Somalia, and I'd have thought 25 years of war there might be moral reason enough, but of course human suffering isn't much of an incentive to other nations. Their own solution is to let some other country volunteer to take the hit of suddenly expanding their population, when their country may already be full by any reasonable calculation.

I am no expert in the details of Somalia, but in such places, a 'head in the sand' approach to ongoing conflict benefits no one save for the armament traders and others who spot opportunities for financial benefit in a war torn place.

If Miliband wants to suggest they find gainful employment in a country they have fled to, then maybe he can convince Kenya that they could use a new city the size of Nottingham. Heck they can even use the name if they like. Or maybe call it New Nottingham.

Old_Geezer

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Svejk

We should create millions of $300,000pa non-jobs to accommodate the endless over production of children in Africa. Is that the idea?

Khandro

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I think the issue of contraception needs addressing too. I saw an interview the other evening on RT with Ray Hammond (futurologist) more here http://www.hammond.co.uk/
Which was a bit scary, he pointed out that there are 2 billion people on the planet who are the lowest of the low, he predicted they will "come and get us".
I think the first wave has already started.

douglas9401

What do I think?
I think 'Hell yeah, hell yeah it's a great idea from a prize plum and champagne socialist'.

naomi24

^I'm thinking along similar lines.

anotheoldgit

Why bring their problems to the more civilised countries?

If a continent the size of Africa cannot sort it's own troubles out, then it is time for it to be re-colonised.

Khandro

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It could be colonization and 'civilization' started the overpopulation problem. Reading Wilfred Thesiger's travels in the region, early in the last century, I remember him relating how he became curious about the beaded amulets most of the young men wore on their upper arms and discovered through a translator that they signified a rite of passage into manhood, to obtain one you had to kill a member of one of their enemy tribes.
So if every young unmarried man killed another young unmarried man, the population would be kept considerably under control.

Baldric

Another bonkers Labourite, himself the son of immigrant parents, who wants to destroy the UK with his "Let 'em all in" policies.

Svejk

To think, balders. If things had gone slightly differently, this prize oaf could be the Prime Minister. ( shudder )

ToraToraTora

the civilised world should invade and civilise Africa. It was a mistake to let them run themselves they are clearly not capable.

naomi24

^It's a thought.

Cloverjo

I think I'd rather we helped 10% of people from central Africa than call 2 billion people "the lowest of the low who will come and get us".
I'm with Miliband here. Hammond sounds like ...well ... I can't think of a polite enough word to get by the filters.

Khandro

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cloverjo mea culpa Hammond in no way was making a value judgment of the people, in fact, I think it was I who used the phrase, not him. He was talking of the poorest underclass of humanity, - with sympathy, actually.