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What Would The World Do If Terrorists Managed To Use Nukes Or A Dirty Bomb?
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///Who would supply ISIS with such a weapon and why?///
Just a thought, they might not supply it willingly
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Looks like 40kg of the muck has gone West from Iraq and Theresa May reckons a dirty bomb threat is real.
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Steg: A quote by Rowan Atkinson in Blackadder Goes Forth - out in No Mans land whilst George is trying to paint a picture and asks what the little mushroomy things are on the map.
.... mine field... 'I don't remember having any fields, Sir. Are you use they're your and not mind. The quotes are way off, however you've just inspired me to watch some Blackadder.
TTT and others; sorry for going off topic. Take care everyone.
.... mine field... 'I don't remember having any fields, Sir. Are you use they're your and not mind. The quotes are way off, however you've just inspired me to watch some Blackadder.
TTT and others; sorry for going off topic. Take care everyone.
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Retaliation in kind is unlikely. Terrorist groups, by their nature, tend to be amorphous, operating from within the cover of civilian populations with no single base of operations. The political fallout (pun intended) from killing large numbers of civilians by retaliating in kind would be unacceptable.
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Nukes have a kind of "minimum size", due to the required critical mass and all the mechanism required to make it go off. The Trinity test device and the Hiroshima/Nagasaki devices are about as small as it gets. So a vehicle capable of shifting a 6ft sphere, weighing a ton or two, would be the minimum. No drone can lift that much, yet and any truck has to make its way here without setting off detectors.
Hence the emphasis on a dirty bomb. The question, there, is "do they want to wait 25,000 years to be able to claim any landholdings in the target zone or not?"
If they wipe out all the prime farmland in Europe and then climate change turns the levant into an extension of the Sahara, what the heck are they going to eat?
More to the point, where is their food coming from, right now? Who, in their right mind is still farming in Syria and Iraq?
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Given the magnitude of foreign investment in London real estate, several nations will come down on them like a ton of bricks if extremists tried anything there. Although the Saudis seem to have left their mansions to go derelict and probably go to Dubai to do their shopping, rather than Harrod's.
Nukes have a kind of "minimum size", due to the required critical mass and all the mechanism required to make it go off. The Trinity test device and the Hiroshima/Nagasaki devices are about as small as it gets. So a vehicle capable of shifting a 6ft sphere, weighing a ton or two, would be the minimum. No drone can lift that much, yet and any truck has to make its way here without setting off detectors.
Hence the emphasis on a dirty bomb. The question, there, is "do they want to wait 25,000 years to be able to claim any landholdings in the target zone or not?"
If they wipe out all the prime farmland in Europe and then climate change turns the levant into an extension of the Sahara, what the heck are they going to eat?
More to the point, where is their food coming from, right now? Who, in their right mind is still farming in Syria and Iraq?
Footnote:
Given the magnitude of foreign investment in London real estate, several nations will come down on them like a ton of bricks if extremists tried anything there. Although the Saudis seem to have left their mansions to go derelict and probably go to Dubai to do their shopping, rather than Harrod's.
Hypognosis - "... If they wipe out all the prime farmland in Europe and then climate change turns the levant into an extension of the Sahara, what the heck are they going to eat?..."
That's a pretty big "if". Particularly the climate change part. However, a "dirty bomb" could realistically only wipe out a very localised area - thankfully. The surrounding buildings and infrastructure make a truly devastating bomb impossible.
The atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were so devastating because they were exploded around half a mile above the cities - their detonations were largely unhindered by the presence of buildings and other infrastructure. If such a device were to be detonated at ground level in a heavily built-up area, the devastation would be substantially reduced.
While the risk of a devastating dirty bomb or even an atomic one is alarmingly likely, the resulting damage wouldn't and couldn't be anywhere near the scale of a Hiroshima / Nagasaki.
That's a pretty big "if". Particularly the climate change part. However, a "dirty bomb" could realistically only wipe out a very localised area - thankfully. The surrounding buildings and infrastructure make a truly devastating bomb impossible.
The atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were so devastating because they were exploded around half a mile above the cities - their detonations were largely unhindered by the presence of buildings and other infrastructure. If such a device were to be detonated at ground level in a heavily built-up area, the devastation would be substantially reduced.
While the risk of a devastating dirty bomb or even an atomic one is alarmingly likely, the resulting damage wouldn't and couldn't be anywhere near the scale of a Hiroshima / Nagasaki.
good points hypo but your major error is gifting these people with rational thought. They would see it as striking the infidel above all else. If they could build and deliver such a device, it would probably be Israel they'd use it on and them Israel and the US would turn the middle east into a sheet of glass. They know that but they'd still do it. That's why they lob a penny banger over the wall and get their town flattened regularly. They know it will happen but they have no rational thought processes.
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