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Plain Packaging For Cigarettes...at Last !

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mikey4444 | 08:43 Thu 22nd Jan 2015 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30926973

We should have got rid of all those pretty, shiny, silver and gold boxes years ago, so its well overdue. ( I know TTT will be cheering this morning ! ) The tobacco lobby has had the upper hand for far too long.
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If pictures of rotting teeth and lungs are going to appear on the packets, as is mooted then it doesn't qualify for the description "plain packaging". Why can't they say what they mean ? Is it deliberate ?

It's more to avoid attracting new potential addicts that trying to get the remaining hard core addicts finally quit.
The only difference it has had here is creating difficulty for retailers and purchasers.
Hasn't made "diddly squat" difference to the number of people who indulge in the vile habit.
Education is the only way a difference will be made.
We have an all time low in the number of smokers ... and we have an all time high of the number of obese people. Is there a connection ?
agree with 1ozzy, I for one am dreading when our own store has to put shutters on. Every other customer I serve wants cigs and it's gonna be a pain in the bum having to keep opening and shutting those doors.
Won't make one iota of difference, instead of all these 'half measures' why don't they just make tobacco illegal?

Strangely enough however there are some who are trying to make Cannabis legal.
AOG, that's often for pain relief, not to get high.
It's usually the young who start smoking and because of their friends and mates, doesn't matter about packaging as IMO that's not the draw to doing it. It's because it's 'cool' and to keep in with their friends and once started it's addictive simple as that.
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When I was a boy in the 60's, most adults I came into contact with smoked.
Mum and Dad, Aunties and Uncles. You could smell the cigarette smoke coming from the Teachers study in the school, long before you walked past the door. I had an Akela in the Cubs that taught me my knots, at the same time as he smoked. It wasn't unusual to see an ash tray on your Doctor's desk. Every Pub, Cafe and restaurant had overflowing ashtrays on the tables. Trains had "Non-Smoking" carriages, instead of "Smoking" carriages.

Am I the only man on here that can recall being given a cigarette advertisement as a birthday or Xmas present, in the form of a JP Special model racing car ?

We were told that if cigarette advertising was stopped, sports such as Cricket and Formula One would collapse overnight. I can't seem to see any evidence of that happening !

In 1948, 82% of adult men smoked. The latest figures I can find is for 2013, and that figure has now fallen to 21%-23%, a tremendous drop by any stretch of the imagination. It is still a problem in the lower socio-economic groups but even here, the incidence of smoking is falling.

How has this been achieved ? Well, it hasn't happened by just sitting back and saying ...

" well, nothing will deter smokers, so whats the point of trying ? "

To suggest that this new move won't have any effect of smokers is disingenuous, and flies in the face of common sense. Advertising works. That is why the tobacco industry used to spend eye-watering amounts of money on it, and they still do in the third world.
Hardly strange. If tobacco is legal and dangerous to health it seems somewhat hypocritical to criminalise cannabis. Both are considered soft drugs with long term use health risks taken by those who opt to. It seems to me they should be in the same drug category.
I agree with AOG.

Odd isn't it......two drugs of addiction...Cannabis and cigarette contents, one is illegal and the other legal.

The medical dangers of cigarette smoking is far greater than that of Cannabis smoking...........in my opinion.
Mikey...advertising does work, there is no doubt about that, but advertising made it look cool, as did films. Like I said though, they are advertising a brand.
Well you can make cannabis cakes. You don't have to smoke it.
//If tobacco is legal and dangerous to health it seems somewhat hypocritical to criminalise cannabis.//

If tobacco is dangerous it’s very legitimacy is hypocritical.
Yes, but you can have your cannabis cake and eat it.
(Or smoke it for that matter.)
"How has this been achieved ? Well, it hasn't happened by just sitting back and saying ... "
If you think plain packaging will have more than an iota of effect you live in a dreamworld. It will make no difference to me and the brand I pick because of personal taste.
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Good morning Sqad !

My point in all this is that at every change in the legislation of smoking that has occurred in my lifetime, it was always said " it won't work" but smoking is now very much of a minority habit here in Britain. The banning of advertising must have been a significant factor in the demise. Colourful and attractive packaging is now the only way left for the tobacco industry to promote its products and to leave it in place is just madness. All the evidence and surveys that I have, say that plain packaging is widely popular, amongst most people and all political Parties.

What a pity that the industry lobby has tried to prevent every move to curb its activities, although hardly surprising.
Mikey....do you not think that's down to the fact that we now know it's bad for you?
^ I agree.
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Ummm...yes of course they advertising a brand, but its not a brand of Cornflakes or toilet paper...........its cigarettes !

Most cigarettes are made by a small number of tobacco companies. As long as people continue to smoke, what difference does it make to companies like Phillip Morris International if you one buy one of their makes instead of another ?

https://www.linkedin.com/company/philip-morris-international

Quote from the above website ::

"Philip Morris International Inc. (PMI) is the leading international tobacco company, with seven of the world’s top 15 brands including the number one cigarette brand worldwide. PMI’s products are sold in more than 180 markets. In 2013, the company held an estimated 15.7% share of the total international cigarette market outside of the U.S., or 28.2% excluding the People’s Republic of China and the U.S"

The tobacco industry in this country is fighting for its very survival. If the present decline in smoking persists, the industry will collapse. That is why they are fighting this new legislation.

Where is TTT this morning !
I think there are more kids these days NOT starting smoking as its not as cool as it used to be. We were watching the news this morning and my teenage son was genuinely surprised that 'kids' started smoking as 'everyone knows its really bad for you' . I think the message is getting across -the days of staring seductively across a bar,cigarette in hand, are long gone,and this latest development in marketing cigarettes will help even more.

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