Lee Rigby

[emmie]

should the killers of Lee Rigby ever come out of prison. They up for sentencing today.

http://news.sky.com/story/1217418/lee-rigbys-killers-could-die-behind-bars

[paddywak]

Personally I think this is a case for the long drop on a short rope

[Booldawg]

I think trying to quantify how many acts of terrorism are committed by other faiths/beleifs or political allegiances largley falls on deaf ears. People have stronger feelings about whats in front of them - and in the UK we only really face acts of these kinds from one section of society.

[WELSHYORKIE]

Barbaric or not, I agree with Paddy

[ummmm]

Why do people always say that? We don't have the death penalty anymore and will never have it again. Calling for them to hang is a waste of words.

[WELSHYORKIE]

ummmm - you're right, we don't have hanging anymore - we don't have lethal injections either but you make no comment on Naomi's 0930 post

[tonyav]

maggiebee
Bullet behind the lug!

To quick imo, maggie.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Joe - in cat A prisons they will be looked up for 23 hours a day. ///

Do they then turn a blind eye for the other hour then? :0)

[ummmm]

AOG - I have a feeling they might do!

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// Adebolajo was born in Lambeth. He was brought up British and as a Christian. He converted to Islam. He would never 'fight for his country' because his country was killing innocent civilian muslims in Iraq. He committed the murder to right that wrong - an eye for an eye. ///

It would seem that our Gromit is in some way supporting his actions, due to our country's involvement in Iraq, brought about by a Labour Prime Minister.

[Orderlimit]

"in cat A prisons they will be looked up for 23 hours a day".

Very unlikely, unless exceptional circs apply

[ummmm]

I think Gromit was just pointing out their twisted logic as Naomi has also done.

That's not supporting it or condoning it.

[aelmpvw]

''they will be treated liked heroes by some in prison.'' ... by a minority for a short time but i'm not convinced they will survive for long

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

/// TWR, they didn't deny killing him - they admitted they killed him - but they denied 'murdering' him. They claimed the killing was justified because it was an act of war. Killing isn't necessarily murder - and that's what their defence depended upon. ///

Pity no one seems to be convicted of Treason these days, because surely for a British subject to kill a member of the British Armed Forces and justifying it has 'an act of war' has got to be treason?

[Kromovaracun]

"It would seem that our Gromit is in some way supporting his actions"

No he isn't.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// I think Gromit was just pointing out their twisted logic as Naomi has also done. ///

/// That's not supporting it or condoning it. ///

Read his words again, that very much seems to be at least making excuses for him.

*** Adebolajo was born in Lambeth. He was brought up British and as a Christian. He converted to Islam. He would never 'fight for his country' because his country was killing innocent civilian muslims in Iraq. HE COMMITTED THE MURDER TO RIGHT THAT WRONG - AN EYE FOR AN EYE. ***

Or at least that is what some would have only been too eager to condemn me for if I had typed those very same words.

[DrFilth]

aog from wiki

>In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife or that of a master by his servant. Treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petty treason. A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aiding or involved by such an endeavor.

[pugthedog]

they should be left to rot were they are

[anotheoldgit]

Kromovaracun

/// "It would seem that our Gromit is in some way supporting his actions" ///

/// No he isn't. ///

And I suppose he wasn't also criticising this country for killing innocent civilian muslims in Iraq?

[ummmm]

But AOG, that's what he said.

[Zeuhl]

aog is being deliberately stupid regarding Gromit's omission of the words 'from his point of view' or similar.

apparently everyone else is intelligent enough to understand what Gromit intended...