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Has anyone asked her majesty if she would mind being queen of scotts? It seems a bit presumptuous really.
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YMB, Come to sunny France, there is no royal family, property is cheaper, Taxes are less, It is warmer than the UK, The roads are better and have a lot less traffic, No road tax, MOT every 2 years, Drink is cheaper whilst there is less drunkeness and you can drive anywhere in Europe apart fom UK & Ireland without having to pay to cross the channel. There are ski slopes only a few hours drive away. They have a kind of money that you can spend anywhere in Europe. Quite astonishing.
Zeuhl...can't agree I'm afraid.
If Blair had said that he enjoyed being PM so much that he was going to stay in Number 10 until he died, and that Euan will be PM after him, we would all have stormed Downing Street, with lighted brands and pitchforks, rather in the fashion that the local villagers did in those old Hammer horror films, when Dracula was ensconced in his mountain top castle.
So I am not sure why, in 2013, we are still prepared to put up with an unelected head of state, who is entitled to sit on the throne because some ancient ancestor 100's of years ago fought a battle somewhere in a field in England and won.
What is right about an elected PM and Government, but so very wrong about an elected Head of State ? Why do you support choice in everything but not at Buck House ? You don't like the idea President Blair or Boris. Well, neither do I, but if the people elect them, so be it. Its called democracy.
I am a republican, but if Liz wants to put herself forward as a candidate for President, than I shall almost certainly vote for her, as she is very experienced and nobody's fool.
But under a Monarchy, we were just a minibus crash away from having Queen Fergie....much scarier than President Boris !
If Blair had said that he enjoyed being PM so much that he was going to stay in Number 10 until he died, and that Euan will be PM after him, we would all have stormed Downing Street, with lighted brands and pitchforks, rather in the fashion that the local villagers did in those old Hammer horror films, when Dracula was ensconced in his mountain top castle.
So I am not sure why, in 2013, we are still prepared to put up with an unelected head of state, who is entitled to sit on the throne because some ancient ancestor 100's of years ago fought a battle somewhere in a field in England and won.
What is right about an elected PM and Government, but so very wrong about an elected Head of State ? Why do you support choice in everything but not at Buck House ? You don't like the idea President Blair or Boris. Well, neither do I, but if the people elect them, so be it. Its called democracy.
I am a republican, but if Liz wants to put herself forward as a candidate for President, than I shall almost certainly vote for her, as she is very experienced and nobody's fool.
But under a Monarchy, we were just a minibus crash away from having Queen Fergie....much scarier than President Boris !
Lazygun....LOL !
Its just occurred to me that if and when Scotland does gain independence, why would they want or need any non elected Monarchy at all ? Surely they would be a republic ?
When the Yanks kicked out George the Third of England, they didn't replace him with George Washington and call him George the First of America did they ?
Its just occurred to me that if and when Scotland does gain independence, why would they want or need any non elected Monarchy at all ? Surely they would be a republic ?
When the Yanks kicked out George the Third of England, they didn't replace him with George Washington and call him George the First of America did they ?
plenty of countries have become independent and yet kept the queen as head of state. I don't really know why, but there's a sort of assumption that she or her representatives won't actually do anything. (The exception was Australia, where the governor general did actually sack the PM once; but they've still kept her on anyway).
As a figurehead ruler, she's fine, hardworking and self-effacing, adn there's simply no great enthusiasm for her to be fired. If her successors prove to be different, there will be more support for republicanism.
As a figurehead ruler, she's fine, hardworking and self-effacing, adn there's simply no great enthusiasm for her to be fired. If her successors prove to be different, there will be more support for republicanism.
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/Yes, but apart from all that, jomifl, what's France actually got going for it!? :-) /
Actually not a lot for the French. Part of the charm of France is that as is oft' said to be like England was 50 years ago, In 10 years time it will be like England was 60 years ago.
The curse of France is a form of socialism that has a minimum wage and a maximum work hours per week that makes it uncompetitive. That allied with high unemployment and early retirement supporting a top heavy burden of paper pushers who have higher salaries and earlier retirement than those that support them is leading to a rude awakening.
/Yes, but apart from all that, jomifl, what's France actually got going for it!? :-) /
Actually not a lot for the French. Part of the charm of France is that as is oft' said to be like England was 50 years ago, In 10 years time it will be like England was 60 years ago.
The curse of France is a form of socialism that has a minimum wage and a maximum work hours per week that makes it uncompetitive. That allied with high unemployment and early retirement supporting a top heavy burden of paper pushers who have higher salaries and earlier retirement than those that support them is leading to a rude awakening.
She already is Elizabeth Queen of Scots, and the monarchy was linked long before the act of union came into place anyway. Also the Queen loves Scotland and the Scots, so if she had to chose, she might not choose England. Prince William also has rather a lot of Scottish blood in his veins, from his mothers side of the family.
/Zeuhl...can't agree I'm afraid./
persuasive argument mikey - well explained
I realise it's contrary but I think there is a benefit to have an elected government counter-balanced by someone who doesn't have to chase short term popularity
I accept that may be dangerous if someone incapable inherits the job.
I know USA is just one format of Republic, but I was struck years ago by an interview with a US National Guard officer whose men fired live ammo at, and killed student protesters.
He resisted the orders several times until told in no uncertain terms that the order came direct from The Oval Office.
In reality it may make no difference, but at least an officer in Britain who resisted firing on fellow 'subjects' could reply that 'with all due respect, my allegiance is to Her Majesty not Downing Street; I await her orders'
persuasive argument mikey - well explained
I realise it's contrary but I think there is a benefit to have an elected government counter-balanced by someone who doesn't have to chase short term popularity
I accept that may be dangerous if someone incapable inherits the job.
I know USA is just one format of Republic, but I was struck years ago by an interview with a US National Guard officer whose men fired live ammo at, and killed student protesters.
He resisted the orders several times until told in no uncertain terms that the order came direct from The Oval Office.
In reality it may make no difference, but at least an officer in Britain who resisted firing on fellow 'subjects' could reply that 'with all due respect, my allegiance is to Her Majesty not Downing Street; I await her orders'
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