And Here Come The Next Lot, Just Where Will We Put Them?

[youngmafbog]

Will we see the Bulgarians and Romanians taking over from the Poles?

How will our schools cope let alone out benefits systems that will no doubt be milked.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4742473/Load-of-bul.html

[mightyWBA]

LoftyLottie ..My old man is 70 and still doing 40 hours a week in a factory..He's been doing this since he was 15 years old.
He's British..I'll tell him you think he's lazy and has a poor work ethic.
I've only worked since 1984 due to having to go to school before that..I suppose I'm the lazy British worker you talk about having only served 29 years.

[emmie]

237. i was referring to not sending 14 years old down the mines, or working in mind killing industry. If some choose not to work, then why are they not targeted by government agencies, i mean they can chase you for a penny over payment in benefits, if they know that there are three adults all working age, then why don't they shut off their benefits and tell them to all get jobs. Imagine the outcry if that happened. The Labour party would be the first to say hold your horses, you can't do that.

[Svejk]

LL 'I can't see Englishmen working for minimum wage & living in a cardboard box'.
Well, you got one thing right.

[pastafreak]

It's shocking how some are so ready to twist and distort another's statements on here. Don't any of you read and think about what is written? Lottie certainly never said she was referring to all Brits....but more to the culture and attitudes that have emerged in recent years.

[emmie]

but some reads as though many British are work shy louts, which is decidedly wrong and unfair.

[ummmm]

I think Lottie has explained enough time that it's a generalization.

[ummmm]

Louts? Where the hell did you get that from?

[emmie]

some people take it as fact though, as opposed to a generalisation.
The British people i have worked with down the years were rarely lazy,
one or two here and there, but that is human nature. Most were hard working individuals who were responsible, with as hard a work ethic as any, so it's why it is difficult to see such criticism without responding in kind.

[mightyWBA]

Anybody who thinks many of these immigrants aren't here to fleece our welfare system is naive to say the least..Open your eyes.

Many countries like Canada and Australia wouldn't let them get out the airport unless they had the means to support themselves.
We have a weak Government,too fightened to speak the truth.
The namby pamby liberals have won.
Hell in a handcart.

[emmie]

probably somewhere down the line, i would have to read this whole thread again, and quite honestly i haven't the time or inclination.

[mightyWBA]

Pasta everybody bashes the English because we can take it..We don't go crying to the authorities!

[Svejk]

I'd be very interested to know where LL gleans her wealth of information from.
I've worked with hundreds ( if not thousands) of Poles etc. over the last 10yrs & while they're nice enough lads I didn't encounter any of these 'supermen' she talks of.

[LoftyLottie]

Mighty WBA. Read what I have said properly. I haven't said that all Brits are lazy. Have you read through the whole thread I wonder or are you picking up on what others have said. I am not surprised about your other half's work ethics. He is of the generation were work ethics were good.

Thank you ummmm and Pasta. At least you have some intelligence to see what I am saying and haven't taken things so personally. But it's like flogging a dead horse on here where people don't even bother

Em, if you read things into my posts that aren't there and take things personally, then it is your problem, not the problems of my posts where I continually say that we have a 'recognised' poor work culture in this country. We didn't use to have.

And I have never said that Eastern Europeans are supermen or even inferred it.

[LoftyLottie]

And thank you 237SJ. You seem to understand what I am saying without any difficulty whatsoever.

[askyourgran]

It is ridiculous that we should have to put up with more. It's time the borders were closed. Our public services are third rate now, not enough hospital beds, decently trained staff, everything is stretched to accommodate the immigrants we already have. Building on green belt is not on. Not enough thought was given to our situation before the mass influx thanks to Tony Blair and Brown. Imo they should be put up against the wall and shot.

[LoftyLottie]

I have looked back through everyone of my posts and in no posting have I said that all British people are lazy. I have continuously talked about our deteriorated work culture, which I still believe has been caused by Benefits being another alternative to living and something to fall back on quite easily, which is not the original intention of benefits.

[sp1814]

AOG

Our Black citizens do not like the Eastern Europeans.

Are you in possession of some information (other than the opinion of someone who phoned in to a radio talk show), that makes you feel confident to be the spokesman for Britain's black community?

[sp1814]

EU migrants claim less in benefits than native Britons.

Can everyone who claims otherwise please read the link below really carefully. It's unhelpful in any discussion to base opinion on perception rather than cold numbers.

[sp1814]

Here it is:

http://fullfact.org/factchecks/immigration_EU_jobs_unemployment_benefits-3006

[maggiebee]

I see thousands of people "milking the system" these days and they are by no means all immigrants. Time we put our own house in order.