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anotheoldgit | 14:06 Tue 24th Apr 2012 | News
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Could these arrests be linked with the Norwegian Far-Right madman, or could they be Muslim terrorists?

/// The raids come the same week that mass killer Anders Breivik, on trial for the massacre of 77 people, told a Norwegian court that Muslims want sharia law in 'places like Luton'. ///

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Do you think a mad Norwegian is an expert of UK domestic jurisprudence?
May be, may be not.

Whatever, it is indicative why the fight against terrorism mst be conducted on so many levels, and not just in our waters/on UK soil.....
As it was a pre-planned operation it will have nothing to do with Breivik.
They could be either - or they could be totally unconnected with either. We don't know who these men are, so any thoughts at the moment can only be conjecture.
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doctordb

/// As it was a pre-planned operation it will have nothing to do with Breivik. ///

I can't see how you have come to that conclusion.

It was has it says 'pre-planned' that is obvious, it is very doubtful the police do these things on the spare of the moment.

But it is obvious that the Norweigen Police have been in close cooperation with our security services, because from when Anders Breivik, was first arrested he has been saying that there are groups in England with the same views as his.
Luton seems to be a hotbed of Muslim extremism. I would say the relation to the Norwegian affair have little in common and are in fact at different ends of the spectrum

I would say this new pattern of revolt links in with the soon departure of coalition troops from Afghanistan and our intention to cut and run even though the problem has not been solved.

Maybe the only answer to is target some drones at areas of Luton.
AOG. A pre-planned operation suggests days and weeks of hard police work, not a reaction to the words of a /// far-right madman /// .The police and intelligence services have carried out plenty of similiar operations since 7/7 and as we don't have the full facts i would lean towards a similarity between those events rather than follow a tenuous three line editorial link at the bottom of an article. However, i may be wrong.
pdq1

You made it all the way to the end of your post before veering of into The Land Of The Insane.

AOG - let's treat anything that Anders Breivik says with a laarge pinch of salt. If there WERE white extremist terrorists cells in the UK, the last thing he would do is alert authorities to them.

He's not mad...just evil.
i cant see the link..... aog im curious why you call this man a madman? i would say hes a terrorist, and thats usually one of your fave words... though i think savage is your all time fave
Surely the norweigen is just a mad man, a loner. The authorities do not seem to have found evidence of collusion with any terrorist cell. He talks rubbish and the dressing up bit ( good looking well dressed police officer) must point to mental problems. He obviously has heard of Luton, as the probably the rest of the world has, after the london terrorist bombings.
pdust, how can a white person POSSIBLY be a savage? Come on now get a grip...
you dont have to be part of a cell to be a terrorist .... a terrorist is someone who strikes fear into others by well erm terrorising them, you know using violence or threats of violence...isnt that exactly what he did?

lol TCL
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pdust

/// aog im curious why you call this man a madman? i would say hes a terrorist, and thats usually one of your fave words... though i think savage is your all time fave ///

What a load of piffle you do spew out.

I am quite within my right to call this mass murderer a madman, just as you are within your right to call him a terrorist if you so wish.

But it appears that is not your only reason to have a go at me, it seems it is the word 'Savage' that is upsetting you, because in your own twisted mind you are associating it with the people who live or originate from Africa,etc. and it gives you another chance to shout out 'racist'.

I do not have favourite words, I only use the appropriate words that fit the particular scenario in question, and for your information don't jump on the bandwagon of others until you are in possession of the facts, the fact this time is that I haven't had need to use the word 'savage' for quite a long time.
LMAO

firstly i didnt say you werent within your rights, its just that you bandy both words around a lot. You gave a link and used the phrase muslim terrorists to something that has yet is just suspicion, had anders brevik been muslim i have no doubt you would have used both the words terrorist and savage... i was curious why you didnt class him as such.....

secondly i wasnt having a go at you... you and everyone else would have known if i had been, i was polite and curious just as i said... could you please tell me why you thought i was having a go? why do you always play the victim?

*it seems it is the word 'Savage' that is upsetting you, because in your own twisted mind you are associating it with the people who live or originate from Africa,etc. and it gives you another chance to shout out 'racist'. *

that is the most hilarious thing i have ever seen you come out with..... the word savage doesnt upset me whatsoever..... have you seen me shout out racist? i think not... please could you explain how my simple comment of *though i think savage is your all time fave * makes you think im upset or associate it with what you said up there? or how it makes my mind twisted?


*I do not have favourite words, I only use the appropriate words that fit the particular scenario in question* so you dont think Brevik is a savage? hes just a poor misunderstood man with mental health problems maybe?

*and for your information don't jump on the bandwagon of others until you are in possession of the facts*

maybe you should take your own advice, you said that probably minutes after making an analysis that my mind is twisted and i associate the word savage with people who live or originate from africa.... for your information i can hold my hands up and say wallah i have never ever associated savage with people from a particular race or country...savage is someone who is a nasty piece of work regardless of colour or nationality... i think what you wrote about that says a hell of a lot about yourself aog
quote from yourself *Ah a 'savage' murder and horrible injuries 'cowardly' inflicted on another while he slept.and this time the savages are not black, and it is not reported from the Mail. *

you make a point of saying this time the savages are not black....... i guess that means in your head they usually are...... it seems you are the one bringing colour or race into the word not me
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pdust

If you did not intend my use of the word 'savage' to be a dig at me, why did you sarcastically refer to word in the first place?

And as I have already stated if you did your research instead of just jumping on other's band wagon, you would have noticed that it was not I who associated the word savage with a kind of racial attachment, hence the quote that you supplied.

/// quote from yourself *Ah a 'savage' murder and horrible injuries 'cowardly' inflicted on another while he slept.and this time the savages are not black, and it is not reported from the Mail. * ///

This was in response to the number of attacks that I and the Mail had been receiving from some who also took offence at the use of the word savage.

It was not I who attached the word savage to a person's skin colour.
it wasnt sarcasm it was an observation.... i would be interested to know your response to what i asked you in my last post....no one mentioned anything in relation to savage and colour or race here until you did the post aimed at me about african people...how you got that conclusion from what i said i would love to know.......

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