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Too many public school medal winners?
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What do people expect? From the very first state school children are positively encouraged not to outdo their classmates. School sports are "everyone is a winner". P.E. in secondary schools teachers are expected to teach other subjects, not just specialise in P.E. Most first and middle school children have P.E. taught by their class teacher, not a specialist.
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I agree with you DN - I inferred this on the Greatest Ever Day for British Sports thread - arguing that this is exactly the target area for the legacy of the Games, idenitifcation of raw talent, resources both in fields/gyms/pools whatever and coaches....and volunteers. If the PS argument is correct, thank god we have them to kick start the government again - Atlanta was the first wake-up for John Major et al; now for Round 2.
Most of the gold medallists of yesterday didn't go to a public school from what I know, Jessica Ennis, Mo Farrar, Greg Rutherford and a fair few of the rowers. Victoria Pendleton didn't either.
I can understand some of the events which are more usual amongst public school educated children, equestrian, shooting, rowing etc...
At the end of the day though, you either have the talent or you don't, of course it's hard work, training and discipline to get there but there needs to be something there to start with and that can't be bought like a public school education.
I can understand some of the events which are more usual amongst public school educated children, equestrian, shooting, rowing etc...
At the end of the day though, you either have the talent or you don't, of course it's hard work, training and discipline to get there but there needs to be something there to start with and that can't be bought like a public school education.
Interesting take on this here:
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"the total number of British pupils taking part in competitive sport at their school was 78% for the years 2009-10, up from 58% in 2006-07, and the average secondary school now offers participation in around 25 sporting disciplines."
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"the total number of British pupils taking part in competitive sport at their school was 78% for the years 2009-10, up from 58% in 2006-07, and the average secondary school now offers participation in around 25 sporting disciplines."
What does it matter which school? Don't be thinking that Public School is the only breeding ground for everything, from Politicians to captains of Industry and now sport. No-one can ignore raw talent when they see it. We were not taught to stand back politely to let someone else win, anyone with any athletic leaning was encouraged to appear in large events to be recognised then given the training to advance further.
All sorts of people, parents, teachers, friends, themselves, depends on the discipline but talent is likely to get noticed as not many people have potential olympian skill.
When I was younger I enjoyed and had skills in dance, drama and music so I went to a dancing and drama school and had music lessons and played in school orchestras, choirs, did shows etc... If you were good you would be sent to join or audition for higher external groups or specialist schools eg ballet school.
We had all sorts of things on locally during half terms and summer holidays where you could go and try different activities and I tried all sorts including things like rowing. All free or nominal cost. Maybe you could say what if people don't make the effort and don't want to get out and get active but that in itself is not the best indication of someone who will become an olympic champion.
When I was younger I enjoyed and had skills in dance, drama and music so I went to a dancing and drama school and had music lessons and played in school orchestras, choirs, did shows etc... If you were good you would be sent to join or audition for higher external groups or specialist schools eg ballet school.
We had all sorts of things on locally during half terms and summer holidays where you could go and try different activities and I tried all sorts including things like rowing. All free or nominal cost. Maybe you could say what if people don't make the effort and don't want to get out and get active but that in itself is not the best indication of someone who will become an olympic champion.
Public school?
Daley Thompson, Linford Christie, Jessica Ennis, Sally Gunnell, Allan Wells, Steve Ovett, Tessa Sanderson, Victoria Pendleton, Bradley Wiggins, Sir Steve Redgrave, Christine Ohuruogu, Andy Murray, Dame Kelly Holmes, Denise Lewis etc etc.
All won gold medals at the Olympics, all are British, yet none went to public schools, so you're talking rubbish.
Daley Thompson, Linford Christie, Jessica Ennis, Sally Gunnell, Allan Wells, Steve Ovett, Tessa Sanderson, Victoria Pendleton, Bradley Wiggins, Sir Steve Redgrave, Christine Ohuruogu, Andy Murray, Dame Kelly Holmes, Denise Lewis etc etc.
All won gold medals at the Olympics, all are British, yet none went to public schools, so you're talking rubbish.
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