Any Ideas On This Anyone ?

[notnutnut]

What am I looking for in terms of reason (grounds ? ) to appeal a decision in CLCC,you know the case from my serial postings I'd think,where despite the fact that I'm 'the first defendant' and regardless of much protest by me,counsel (mine) tells me I can't give evidence in the case (just before I run off to RCJ to put this new development to them) Do I ask for a retrial,an appeal or what ? This surely cannot be lawful even.Help pleaseeee ! I'm asked on my return to CLCC by counsel,where was I ? Point out the denial for me to be allowed to take the stand,but now,because he's 'asked the judge' permission that I can give evidence it's OK but oh no,because I've been at RCJ to sort the first denial for me to give evidence,it's too late,sorry.Can anyone else smell what I'm smelling ? (would this not be on the court audio recordings if the request for me to give evidence (not) ever happened?) I think so,not that I need a dodgy judges permission to defend myself, since the clue to me is that I'm a defendant what !

[FredPuli43]

I'm smelling that you're a very annoying client ! Whether you're right to be annoyed is another matter. If you won't take the advice of counsel, won't understand procedure, won't listen to what counsel says, but decide to go off to plough your own furrow, regardless, you can hardly be surprised if the case, or the proceedings , don't go as you would wish.

Why were you running off to the RCJ ? On whose decision?

[Peter Pedant]

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did I read right ?

whilst you were running around sorting out an appeal to a case that was still running, you were called as a witness and were absent ?

Honestly I dont know what you do now

[notnutnut]

Sorry if I confuse you,the reason I rushed off to RCJ was that my counsel had made very clear to me that I wasn't allowed to give evidence,from either the wittiness box or if I had I told him from the back of the court.90% of all the evidence in the case is mine and I wanted to be able to substantiate it since I'm the first defendant ! Having my 86 year old mother run rings around by claimants barristers aggressive questioning and fearing that would be the only evidence in case I thought RCJ could make an order or whatever for me to give my evidence as was always planned from the start that's all.Can't be right ?

[factor-fiction]

Sorry but given everything you've posted, there is a either a major conspiracy going on worthy of a John Grisham novel or you are something of a 'loose cannon' in these matters who ignores the advice of professionals and tries to plough his own furrow without success.

[factor-fiction]

Unless someone like Barmaid can advise you, and you accept what they say, you probably need to find a legal representative who can try to find a way out of this mess- but once you appoint a legal adviser you must let them get on with the job and not undermine them or go off on your own on matters

[EDDIE51]

I do not understand what this is about, what are CLCC and RCJ ? . Why are you asing about a retrial / appeal while the current trial is still ongoing ?
Very confusing.

[buildersmate]

Eddie
Central London County Court and Royal Courts of Justice

But you have to have followed this saga from the start to understand what has been going on and, even then it is desperately confusing to sort out fact from fiction.

[boxtops]

I understood from an earlier thread that the case finished last Weds, but then, I could be wrong.

[notnutnut]

factor-fiction,the first option you mention is correct but I didn't want to contaminate any input from Ansbanks by coming across as a 'conspiracy theorist' but this is the current case in a continuous strip of cases criminal/civil back into the '90's all of which I've survived,just.A loose cannon ? Well, once I can find something strange beyond logical explanation, I usually try to test it,by a method (at this point you may think I'm bonkers) that I described to a few people as 'Doppler psychology' one question to one person and different to another,check the reflected answer/evidence to establish the 'weakest link' so to speak.I'm quite certain it works though,(not s21 68 theft act stuff) only to dodge the ongoing fit ups,the best being put on offer 'with a potential fine of 1.2 mil ' EA case ' and only survived by using the truth I'd trawled previously and still have, be made public 'in the interests of justice' if the 52 joke charges against me weren't binned,2 weeks later done ! Just ask if you're keen to see the 'war and peace' length detail.'A man of reasonable mind' might think the land upon which he resides was in the way of a development plan even.There not getting it !My immediate problem I post on now,I think I know the way but (I'm no expert,just exposure to endless cases to survive) Ask what if anything you,none of it 's secret,and thank you everyone for the help!

[bednobs]

my questions would be thus: are you taking any substances? Is English your first language?
The reason i ask is that i can made neither head nor tail of your latest post, sorry. I am inclined to believe that you are some sort of vexatious complainer/vexatious tenant, if as you say you have had a string of court cases/charges against you going back 20 years

[notnutnut]

Sorry,I didn't answer all the individual postings,I can be annoying allegedly, but mainly to the enemy, official or otherwise,Fred.RCJ,my decision and because my counsel says 'I cannot take the stand' ? even though I'm the 'first defendant' so I'm trying to get an order or what so's I can!Peter Pedant,I went as I say to Fred, for an order or confirmation to allow me to give evidence !factor-fiction,I left barmaid alone 'cause shes looking after her son this weekend and by coincidence I have my daughter for the weekend who I haven't seen much of since I've been trying to shake the ---- out this nonsense case and I do miss her.buildersmate,should I serialise this for TV or not,thanks mate. boxtops,last day on Thursday last,the maid has the judgement,but she's busy but the most strange biz ever,I'll post it here if I get the OK,Thanks,I have a plan and it should hit fan shortly !!!

[notnutnut]

bednobs,no vexatious litigants here,owned not rented and no substances,but if you could recommend some,for the first time ever I nodded of in the office chair a couple of days ago and gravity was taking it's course.Property developing all around but I'm not moving is the reason,thanks for helping.

[FredPuli43]

I hope your counsel didn't say you can't "take the stand", but only because there is no 'stand' in British courts, only a witness box, and unless your counsel had been suddenly infected with Americanisms inapplicable to the Court, he or she wouldn't say it.

You haven't said what reason was given for your not being "allowed" to give evidence. Was it because the case for the defence was closed?

[factor-fiction]

I understood from what Peter -Pedant said on the other thread that notnutnut wasn't there when called because he'd left the court to go to the RCJ

[FredPuli43]

F-F it is confusing. I thought that NNN had gone to the RCJ to complain that he hadn't been allowed to give evidence. That when he got back he wasn't allowed to was thus immaterial and superfluous because the fact that he had not been allowed to was the reason he went.

[notnutnut]

FRED,110% SPOT ON, THANK YOU,So more wasted cab fares tomorrow at about $150 a day and your'e correct with the stand bit too!

[bednobs]

hiya, thankyou for your polite answer to my rather rude one. I wondered if you'd ever hesrd the expression "if everyone is telling you you are dead, it's time to lie down"?

[notnutnut]

BEDNOBS,as my reward for being polite could you tell me how to that thing/thread whatever please ?????????????? the thing in red at the bottom !

[bednobs]

i would love to if i only knew what you were talking about!

[Eve]

So, from what I can gather you had a ongoing case at CLCC (Central London County Court?) and had been told by your legal counsel that you were ot allowed to give evidence. Because of this you went to the Royal Courts of Justice to update them on a new development (I assume in another related case?).

However, your legal counsel had asked the Judge if you could give evidence and the Judge agreed but because you were not at Court (but on route to/from the RJC), by the time you got back it was too late for you to give evidence so the chance was wasted?