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Isn't It Time To Do Away With Trial By Jury?
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There are too many thick people nowadays with no common sense able to sit on a jury to ensure a fair trial. Maybe the judge should decide whether the defendant is innocent or guilty and the jury should decide the punishment.
There are too many thick people nowadays with no common sense able to sit on a jury to ensure a fair trial. Maybe the judge should decide whether the defendant is innocent or guilty and the jury should decide the punishment.
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PankySmooch - //andy hughes, I was answering EDDIES51 question, he wasn't black he was middle class, late fifties and read the guardian, the tree hugger bit was made up so what's your problem? //
I don't have a problem - I merely suggested that summing up someone's entire persona and view on the world based on such a limited interaction is incorrect, and not entirely fair, and I put forward the viewpoint that if said gentleman were to sum you up in a similar broad-brushed manner, you might equally regard it as unjust.
What do you think?
I don't have a problem - I merely suggested that summing up someone's entire persona and view on the world based on such a limited interaction is incorrect, and not entirely fair, and I put forward the viewpoint that if said gentleman were to sum you up in a similar broad-brushed manner, you might equally regard it as unjust.
What do you think?
I've sat on two juries, and the second case was under a judge later exposed as a paedophile.
In a "no jury" trial he could ensure his fellow-paedos got off.
Criminal judges are very rare, but they do exist.
P.S. The case I tried was not sex offence.
P.P.S. In my experience as a foreman of jury, the "problem" with some jurors is lack of interest rather than "thickness" - they just want to "wrap this up and go home" - but the numbers are small.
In a "no jury" trial he could ensure his fellow-paedos got off.
Criminal judges are very rare, but they do exist.
P.S. The case I tried was not sex offence.
P.P.S. In my experience as a foreman of jury, the "problem" with some jurors is lack of interest rather than "thickness" - they just want to "wrap this up and go home" - but the numbers are small.
PankySmooch - //Was you there for the five week trial then or do you know this chap in question?
He was called a lot worse by other jurors but that wouldn't interest you would it?
If you be got something to say, don't try and hide it as if he said it, be a man for once and say it yourself //
Obviously I was not there - but what he was called by other jurors is not the point we are discussing here is it?
I am merely pointing out that your apparent labelling of an individual, using 'character shorthand' may be somewhat unfair - that is all I have to say, and I am being a man about it - I find difficulty in being anything else.
He was called a lot worse by other jurors but that wouldn't interest you would it?
If you be got something to say, don't try and hide it as if he said it, be a man for once and say it yourself //
Obviously I was not there - but what he was called by other jurors is not the point we are discussing here is it?
I am merely pointing out that your apparent labelling of an individual, using 'character shorthand' may be somewhat unfair - that is all I have to say, and I am being a man about it - I find difficulty in being anything else.
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