Mot

[Bingo99]

Can a car fail an MOT because of the electronic stability system warning lamp being on? I have an 05 Golf Plus.

Thanks

[EDDIE51]

Yes it means the stability system is not working, this means the car is unsafe.
You need to fix it before the MOT.

[gingejbee]

So, if the ESP is not working...the car is unsafe?
What about cars without ESP at all...are they all unsafe?

[TWR]

If the system is not incorporated within the Elec System & does not show on the dash with a warning, what do you think Gindejbee? I think it stands to common.

[gingejbee]

TWR: I'd answer your comment - if I could understand it.
I have difficulty in understanding most of your posts - and several others have said the same.

[TWR]

If the ESS is fitted within the car's Elec System it would be a part of the cars Design, therfore, if there is a fault & it's showing up as a warning, a fail.

[gingejbee]

I'm not disputing the fact that this would fail the MOT.
I'm disputing EDDIE's statement that because the ESP isn't working, the car is unsafe.
I can switch the ESP programme off in my car...the car doesn't become unsafe as a result.

[TWR]

gingejbee I'm not disputing the fact that this would fail the MOT.
I'm disputing EDDIE's statement that because the ESP isn't working, the car is unsafe.
I can switch the ESP programme off in my car...the car doesn't become unsafe as a result.

Are you Qualified 7 experienced to come to this decision?

[sherrardk]

My car failed because one of the warning lights was on, turns out the model had been recalled by the manufacturer for a wiring problem that caused it, so I got it fixed for free.

[SlackAlice]

TWR

Whats Qualified 7 ?

[SlackAlice]

☺☺☺ Ta!

[shoota]

Electronic Stability Control
Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.
The "bedding in" period referred to ended on 31st March 2012, prior to which it would have resulted in an advisory notice and you'd have had until next year to rectify it.


neiljohnson

9,149 posts

79 months
[report] [news] Sunday 5th August 2012 quote quote all
The "bedding in" period has been extended because as usual vosa have ballsed everything up so at this time your car will still pass however once the new rules are applied (at this time there is no date set) it will fail.
This assumes they don't change their mind of course

From here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1177246

[gingejbee]

TWR: Since the manufacturer has fitted a button to enable me to cancel the ESP functions, but still drive the car, I'll assume that the car is safe to drive!

[shoota]

In short - it will fail when the new regs are implemented but at the moment it appears you will get away with an 'advisory' note. Provided it is merely a malfunctioning light and not a real fult of course....

[SlackAlice]

There is another slant to this. If you switch off ESS/ESP, which presumably has been supplied for safety reasons, then are involved in an accident. Your Ins Co finds out it was switched off, I'd expect them to start arguing you were partially at fault for doing so.

I have switchable ESS/ESP but it sets so high that it rarely operates, only once in the snow and ice of last winter.

[shoota]

You are correct Ginge.
ESP is merely an electronic aid for greater driver control in adverse conditions. It may make a car safer but it doesn't make a car unsafe if it is not present/correct.

[gingejbee]

shoota: thank you, I thought I may be going just slightly mad!

[TWR]

gingejbee, That 7 should have been &, I have the device fitted to my own car the Indicating light is yellow, If the Warning came up on your dash & was in RED the MOT Tester would have to fail it to safeguard his Licence.

[gingejbee]

TWR: if you read my answers, you will see that I have agreed with you regarding passing/failing MOT.
My only gripe was with the very first answer from EDDIE: he said that if the "stability system" is not working "this means the car is unsafe". This isn't true and that's what I was trying to say.

[TWR]

No probs.