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Is this hypocrisy ?
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I recently attended a wake for a humanist friend of mine. He was buried in a woodland trust burial ground . There was no service only a 5 minute saying goodbye at the grave. Many of his friends attended of various beliefs and none.
However there was one notable exception the one person who was most associated with a church. He and his wife are closely linked to their church at all levels from supplying all the flowers, playing the organ and preparing the sermons. but they couldn't bring themselves to attend a non religious service.
To put it mildly it was an unchristian act. The deceased widow was understandably upset that someone who she considered a close friend could be so unfeeling.
Can anyone justify this lack of compassion ?
However there was one notable exception the one person who was most associated with a church. He and his wife are closely linked to their church at all levels from supplying all the flowers, playing the organ and preparing the sermons. but they couldn't bring themselves to attend a non religious service.
To put it mildly it was an unchristian act. The deceased widow was understandably upset that someone who she considered a close friend could be so unfeeling.
Can anyone justify this lack of compassion ?
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I'm sorry clanad you have lost me . I don't know what more clarification you
seem to need. Do you not understand what a wake is ?
It is a commemoration of a persons life which may be a party accompanied or not , by rituals in this case a 5 min internment. Some wakes, as in Ireland consist of a tour of all the local pubs.
What a funny idea you have of close friends . Good grief you don't have to be a social/worker carer to be considered close friends.
In this case they visited each other socially in their homes every two or three weeks and had done so for several years . A well as meeting up at their clubs .Wouldn't you say they were close friends.
Yes several people were puzzled /surprised that they were not there especially the widow . We know they were at home i.e not on holiday neither did they respond to the letter that she had sent to everyone . Not even a word of condolence , then or since. So I think it reasonable to suppose there was another deeper reason .
There wasn't a service . A wake is not a service and nether is a 5 min goodbye
I not prepared to get into a pedantic discussion on the definition of Humanism. That would be an empty discussion and irrelevant to to their behaviour.
seem to need. Do you not understand what a wake is ?
It is a commemoration of a persons life which may be a party accompanied or not , by rituals in this case a 5 min internment. Some wakes, as in Ireland consist of a tour of all the local pubs.
What a funny idea you have of close friends . Good grief you don't have to be a social/worker carer to be considered close friends.
In this case they visited each other socially in their homes every two or three weeks and had done so for several years . A well as meeting up at their clubs .Wouldn't you say they were close friends.
Yes several people were puzzled /surprised that they were not there especially the widow . We know they were at home i.e not on holiday neither did they respond to the letter that she had sent to everyone . Not even a word of condolence , then or since. So I think it reasonable to suppose there was another deeper reason .
There wasn't a service . A wake is not a service and nether is a 5 min goodbye
I not prepared to get into a pedantic discussion on the definition of Humanism. That would be an empty discussion and irrelevant to to their behaviour.
Modeller - “... [to Clanad] I not prepared to get into a pedantic discussion on the definition of Humanism. That would be an empty discussion and irrelevant to to their behaviour....”
Good call. In my experience, Clanad is rather odd character. I have had a few debates with him in the past. They almost always end up with him asserting something utterly unprovable or implausible which I counter and then... nothing. He disappears. If I remember correctly, Clanad was, 'going to get back to me' on a matter of evolution. That was well over six months ago. Needless to say, I haven't heard anything since.
Pay no attention. He's a wind-up merchant as demonstrated by his earlier post where he's attempting to infer things left right and centre without a shred evidence whilst pushing his Christian agenda.
Good call. In my experience, Clanad is rather odd character. I have had a few debates with him in the past. They almost always end up with him asserting something utterly unprovable or implausible which I counter and then... nothing. He disappears. If I remember correctly, Clanad was, 'going to get back to me' on a matter of evolution. That was well over six months ago. Needless to say, I haven't heard anything since.
Pay no attention. He's a wind-up merchant as demonstrated by his earlier post where he's attempting to infer things left right and centre without a shred evidence whilst pushing his Christian agenda.
Modeller - “... [to Clanad] I not prepared to get into a pedantic discussion on the definition of Humanism. That would be an empty discussion and irrelevant to to their behaviour....”
Good call. In my experience, Clanad is rather odd character. I have had a few debates with him in the past. They almost always end up with him asserting something utterly unprovable or implausible which I counter and then... nothing. He disappears. If I remember correctly, Clanad was, 'going to get back to me' on a matter of evolution. That was well over six months ago. Needless to say, I haven't heard anything since.
Pay no attention. He's a wind-up merchant as demonstrated by his earlier post where he's attempting to infer things left right and centre without a shred evidence whilst pushing his Christian agenda.
Birdie, I have detected a fundamental fault in your post. You have only given Clanad six months and, as we all know, evolution aint' quite that quick?
Good call. In my experience, Clanad is rather odd character. I have had a few debates with him in the past. They almost always end up with him asserting something utterly unprovable or implausible which I counter and then... nothing. He disappears. If I remember correctly, Clanad was, 'going to get back to me' on a matter of evolution. That was well over six months ago. Needless to say, I haven't heard anything since.
Pay no attention. He's a wind-up merchant as demonstrated by his earlier post where he's attempting to infer things left right and centre without a shred evidence whilst pushing his Christian agenda.
Birdie, I have detected a fundamental fault in your post. You have only given Clanad six months and, as we all know, evolution aint' quite that quick?
There has to be more to this than meets the eye. Perhaps something happened to offend them on their last meeting. Being such good friends, if they were reluctant to attend a non-religious funeral, I would have thought the widow would have been aware of that – but to ignore the man’s demise altogether and send no word of condolence seems very odd indeed. Was the death sudden, or was the man ill for some time before, and if so, did they visit him then?
I try not to get into a discussion on evolution because theists will not accept the science because to do so would be admitting their mythology is a load of bunkum. If you challenge them on anything in the bible they then turn to another part of the bible to prove their part . I say to them " I'll discuss the bible with you as long as you don't use the bible to prove the bible. "
They then whip out biblical tracts and leaflets to argue their cause.
They then whip out biblical tracts and leaflets to argue their cause.
It doesn't make sense. If they didn't even send a word of condolence, surely there must have been a falling out between the couple and the deceased that the widow wasn't aware of? Regardless of their religious beliefs, I find it very difficult to believe that such good friends would ignore the death completely. If I were the widow, I would have to ring them and ask what's wrong.
Clanad - “... Sorry, birdie (there is a life beyond AB)... ”
I fully accept that and I would like to apologise for my earlier post which with hindsight was rather crass. I too sometimes leave debates suddenly due to other more important matters.
The debate I was referring to was posted by Naomi and was called, “Is this something else for Creationists to think about?” [23:13 Wed 14th Mar 2012]
I really don't wish to open up an old debate on this particular thread as that would be inconsiderate to Modeller. However, if you wish to resurrect the debate by posting a new thread on the matter then I'm all for that. And I was incorrect in saying that it had been over six months – it's actually only four months, so apologies for that as well. The link is here...
http://
I fully accept that and I would like to apologise for my earlier post which with hindsight was rather crass. I too sometimes leave debates suddenly due to other more important matters.
The debate I was referring to was posted by Naomi and was called, “Is this something else for Creationists to think about?” [23:13 Wed 14th Mar 2012]
I really don't wish to open up an old debate on this particular thread as that would be inconsiderate to Modeller. However, if you wish to resurrect the debate by posting a new thread on the matter then I'm all for that. And I was incorrect in saying that it had been over six months – it's actually only four months, so apologies for that as well. The link is here...
http://
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