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I don't mind seeing it, but why on earth does our biggest selling daily newspaper have a girl on page 3 showing off her baps?
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I don't believe whether sex should be private or not, is the point. Surely the crux of the matter is how old should one be to be considered adult for the purposes of whatever is being discussed. The suggestion surely is that if you are old enough to legally engage in sexual activity then you must be old enough to take your top off without problem. And if you are old enough for that, then it has nothing to do with corrupting minors and other such inappropriate connections. Personally I went topless on the beach at a much younger age. No one said a word.
Old_Geezer, I think you are playing devil's advocate here, and nothing wrong with that.
i think the impolrtant issue of which we should not loose sight, is that these matters are not black and white (no jokes about Page 3 being in colour please!!)
A sixteen-year-old girl is in the majority, but not all, cases, capaable of making decisions about her own sexual activity. That is a world away from pandering to the dubious tastes of titilation in complete strangers which can send a message that young girs are far more sexually active, and responsive, than is actually the case.
If one sixteen-year-old girl flashing her breasts in a natiaonl newspaper leads to the sexual assualt and abuse of any other sixteen eyar-old-girl because of the messages inferred and accepted, then that is one too many girls on both sides of the situation.
i think the impolrtant issue of which we should not loose sight, is that these matters are not black and white (no jokes about Page 3 being in colour please!!)
A sixteen-year-old girl is in the majority, but not all, cases, capaable of making decisions about her own sexual activity. That is a world away from pandering to the dubious tastes of titilation in complete strangers which can send a message that young girs are far more sexually active, and responsive, than is actually the case.
If one sixteen-year-old girl flashing her breasts in a natiaonl newspaper leads to the sexual assualt and abuse of any other sixteen eyar-old-girl because of the messages inferred and accepted, then that is one too many girls on both sides of the situation.
rowanwitch - I am intrigued by the hypocrisy involved in your perceived approach by your grandfather.
Every Page Three girl is someone's grand-daughter, someone's little girl, some dad's precious daughter. If it's Ok for him to look at strangers' grand-daughters, why is it not OK for strangers to look at his grand-daughter? As a grandfather or a teenage grand-daughter, there is no danger of me seeing my grand-daughter topless in a tabloid - I don't read them.
Every Page Three girl is someone's grand-daughter, someone's little girl, some dad's precious daughter. If it's Ok for him to look at strangers' grand-daughters, why is it not OK for strangers to look at his grand-daughter? As a grandfather or a teenage grand-daughter, there is no danger of me seeing my grand-daughter topless in a tabloid - I don't read them.
Remember this was a long time ago and most of the Sun models were considerably older than 16 back then we were in the days of Sam Fox and Linda lusardi .Most photos were not fully topless and so they were a lot less blatent than now The photos had been taken with the excuse he was just practising his camera setups for a professional shoot the next day and my sister fell for it, I hate the whole concept of glamour modelling especially when the women being photographed are posed to look like much younger girls or the captions imply this, and maybe it was hypocritical to think of our own grandfather at that time, but that was the situation we were faced with.
Fair comment, but being of a certain age, i remember Sam Fox, who did debut at sixteen, and Linda Lusardi, and they were almost always topless.
I agree, times were different then - but the fundamental sleaziness of the whole enterprise has been a continal thread from its inception to today. As I am sure you will agree.
I interviewed Samantha Fox years ago, and asked her what she thought men were thinking when they looked at photos of her bare breasts. "Well, you're a man, what do you think?" was the practised reply batted back at me. "I know what I think I want to know if you know what I think ..." I returned. She said nothing, but the look in her eyes showed that she knew full well, and was not comfortable about it.
I agree, times were different then - but the fundamental sleaziness of the whole enterprise has been a continal thread from its inception to today. As I am sure you will agree.
I interviewed Samantha Fox years ago, and asked her what she thought men were thinking when they looked at photos of her bare breasts. "Well, you're a man, what do you think?" was the practised reply batted back at me. "I know what I think I want to know if you know what I think ..." I returned. She said nothing, but the look in her eyes showed that she knew full well, and was not comfortable about it.
That's the interesting thing joeluke - she was Ok with millions of strangers looking when she wasn't there, but as she told me, more than the photographer in the studio, and she had to cover up.
She was an averagely pretty girl, not terribly bright, unlike Linda Lusardi, who is bright as a button, and absolutely gorgeous!
She was an averagely pretty girl, not terribly bright, unlike Linda Lusardi, who is bright as a button, and absolutely gorgeous!
