Crop circles

[Tom Braider]

Has anyone ever seen a crop circle or a photo of one that didn't have a path or a plough furrow or some other form of pathway through it? If so, I might be more inclined to believe that there's some mystery to them.

[bobclean]

Tom, please see crop circle question below, it has already been established beyond doubt that aliens created them.

[spudo]

even if you do find a picture of a crop circle with no path to it, that dosent mean it was done by E.T
its not hard to walk through a corn field and not leave a trail.

[naomi24]

Untrue and unfair bob - but nothing less than I'd expect from you. Sarcasm really is the lowest form of wit, you know - but it suits you admirably.

[bobclean]

Why unfair & untrue Naomi? You will readily believe in aliens, yet you have no evidence to show us. I apologise for the sarcasm, it is my attempt at humour seeing how reason failed with you. I don't mean to be offensive. If I have upset you, I genuinely apologise, I didn't mean to. I was trying to keep the discussion light-hearted.

[naomi24]

Unfair and untrue because it hasn't been established. I didn't say that aliens create crop circles, but I did give my reasons for believing it's likely that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, and to anyone who will take the trouble to read, to step outside of their limited mindset and their limited historical timeline, and to stretch their brain enough to comprehend, those reasons are entirely logical. (And if my dear colleague from R&S, Chakka, says they're logical, you'd better believe it! There's none more logical than him!! A veritable Mr Spock!!).

You say I won't listen to reason, but just where is the reason in your argument?. All you've done is to say it isn't so, and you haven't elaborated on that. As I said, arrogant man thinks he's the most intelligent, the most knowledgeable and the most technologically advanced being in the universe, but it's my belief that he couldn't be more wrong. 'I don't think this is possible, so therefore is isn't'. Now there's true logic for you!

You speak of evidence. Where's your evidence that intelligent life does not exist elsewhere in the universe? And since you're so keen to limit the science section to the subject of science (and quite rightly so) where's that overwhelming curiosity that scientists are usually endowed with?

Thank you for the apology, by the way. Accepted.

[bobclean]

Naomi, at the risk of this evolving into another long, pointless conversation, let me respond to your last post: You state "Where's your evidence that intelligent life does not exist elsewhere in the universe? ". My answer is, I have no evidence. I am not making the claim that there is no other life. There may well be, I hope there is! Infact, I am not making any claims at all, I am not suggesting for one moment that I know all the answers, I am just looking at the available evidence, I am not arrogant as you suggest, I simply don't know. I am open-minded. I do, however, not BELIEVE that crop circles are created by aliens. This is the fundamental point I was making. I need some kind of evidence, not belief. Belief, (to me at least) is not a viable principle, in that it ignores evidence and observation. As I have previously stated, there is, to my satisfaction, plenty of evidence to show that human beings are responsible for intricate crop circles. Therefore I don't seriously need to investigate the idea that aliens are trying to communicate with us via the medium of cereal. That just not make sense to me. Lets just say we are never going to see eye-to-eye on this matter, you beieve in aliens, and although I would truly love to know they were visiting us, I need some evidence. Let's just move on, shall we?

[naomi24]

Bob, may I remind you, yet again, that I haven't said aliens create crop circles. Furthermore, you rekindled this topic, not me. However, as you say, let's move on. (Chances are it won't last though. Hey ho!).

Au revoir.

[jake-the-peg]

Here you go

http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archi ves/2006/10/more_crop_circles.html

I think this proves Greenpeace are aliens

[naomi24]

Bet Greenpeace don't make them in a few hours, overnight and without being spotted, though. :o)

[sp1214]

If these aliens were that intelligent why don't they speak to us directly instead of using sign language?

[R1Geezer]

Naomi, I read the thread below. Can you just do one thing for me, Take me to your dealer!

[naomi24]

sp, what aliens?

R1Geezer, you may have read the thread below, but you've clearly not understood it.

[M-A-T-R-I-X]

Were'nt crop circles proven to be fake? Im sure I saw a documentary with some farmers and some planks of wood, showing the camera men how to create a crop circle.

[R1Geezer]

I understood it fine. Aliens came a couple of thousand years ago and pulled a few party tricks, mankind assumed they where gods, tada! Or did I miss something?

Aliens exist definately
we will never meet or communicate - definately
end of

[naomi24]

I think you may have missed quite a lot, R1Geezer, but thank you for your words of wisdom nevertheless. I'll bear them in mind.

Now since this isn't my thread, and since I imagine the originator would have liked the discussion to go in an entirely different direction, I'll bid you good day.

[SpamBammer]

i made them with my chopper!