Actually, bobtheturkey, they may not be able to jump over fences, but they can scale dry stone walls, the little b***ards!! Oh, and cows don't mate with one another - they mate with bulls (unless you get a little man in to do it! A.I., I mean...!!) Love, K (aka Farmer Giles - or should that be "Farmer Jill" - sorry, everyone, I'm in a silly mood tonight!!)