Ok As Promised - Suggestions To Halt Islamification

[ToraToraTora]

NB for the pedants and nit pickers there may be exceptions to the suggestions below, I will mention them if I think about them, if I do not that just means I cannot think of an exception. This list is by no means exhaustive. You may note that many of the suggestions apply to any religion. Feel free to add your own suggestions.

1.  Automatic rejection of any immigrant or asylum seeker that is Muslim.

2. No accommodation for the rituals or demands of any religion in schools. Religious education as a subject is allowed but must cover all main religions. All current religious schools to be converted or closed down.

3. No provision for any religion in the work place and no practicing the rituals of any religion. Employers can instantly dismiss any transgression.

4. Any extreme preaching (current UK definition) will result in instant arrest and internment until trial. If guilty 10 years to life no remission.

5. No Hijab or burka, full face coverings allowed in public.

6. No preaching except within the building designated for the purpose of the religion.

7. The production and supply of Halaal and Kosher meat would be illegal. Both Islam and Judaism have provision in their scriptures for this.

8. No religious “courts” , “councils” or other pseudo bodies to be allowed.

9. Local authorities and government generally are barred from any sort of special religious provision.

10. Any Islamic TV or radio channel must be closed down, any transgression should be treated as in 4.

11. Demonstrations are allowed but any extremist talk or placard will be treated as in 4.

12. Close down any jihadist web sites, blogs, Videos and prosecute those responsible where possible as in 4.

13. Block Imams access to any place of education, prisons, forces etc

14. Any attempt at implementing anything from sharia law to be prosecuted as in 4.

15. Allow no new mosques unless an old mosque is decommissioned. The total number of mosques to not exceed what it is now.

[ToraToraTora]

gawd elp us the brains trust has arrived.

[maggiebee]

1984, eat your heart out.

[Peter Pedant]

Nope - shown the door, and given the bumz rush. If you say somethig a mod doesnt like..... you're doooomed !

The mods are the wisest people on this planet

[ToraToraTora]

11:27 so you are happy to be islamified then maggie? Better get fitted out for your burka.

[sandyRoe]

It won't work that way.  More likely Islamic gals will be wearing mini skirts and drinking prosecco until they can hardly stand.

Don't underestimate the attractions of liberal western culture.

[Peter Pedant]

yes - but if this thread is anything to go by, and its deletions we may neveer be er the wiser

A lot of women in Manch wear  shawls ( a la C19 fish wives) and the face is clear. 

[maggiebee]

TTT you seem to think that all Muslims are radical.  I can assure you they are not. I lived in Abania and Turkey (both Muslim countries) and found nothing but courtesy and friendship.  I have an "adopted" daughter and two "adopted grandchildren" in Albania and will be visiting them soon.  No, they don't wear burkas in these countries. Please don't lump all Muslims together. You have freedom to vent your bile on this site, apparently without any censure?   I thought you were educated but apparently not. 

[ToraToraTora]

maggie, I was asked for my suggestions on how to stop creeping Islamification. That's what this is. I am not making any comments on the demographic break down of where each muslim is on the loony tunes scale.

[brainiac]

It's Islam that is radical - so any follower of it, ie a Muslim, is radical, too

[Untitled]

ttt 

i agree with the secular proposals about schools and about halal/kosher meat 

but here is where you lose me... a british christian woman under your system could marry a jewish man from Hebron and bring him to the uk with a spousal visa... but if she wanted to do that with a muslim from the next street over then that would be illegal. it is simply discrimination. 
 

what if someone immigrates into the UK and then just converts to islam? do the boot boys come around and kick them out? 
 

how are you going to block imams from prison if they break the law? what happens to them?

[Untitled]

"Please don't lump all Muslims together"

i agree... good post

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: " a british christian woman under your system could marry a jewish man from Hebron and bring him to the uk with a spousal visa... but if she wanted to do that with a muslim from the next street over then that would be illegal. it is simply discrimination. " - Marraige to import someone else is already covered by the existing laws I am not suggesting any change there. I also said I would allow muslim / non muslim marraige at 11:13 in response to your question at 11:11 so not sure what you are getting at here.

[Untitled]

because you said "any muslim immigrant" would be rejected so presumably that would extend to spousal visas

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "what if someone immigrates into the UK and then just converts to islam? do the boot boys come around and kick them out? " - no but I imagine that is rare.
 

"how are you going to block imams from prison if they break the law? what happens to them?" - Don't be obtuse, they can go in as prisoners not as preachers.

[davebro3]

It all looks *** whichever way you cut it. I'm rather glad I'm nearer the end of my life than the beginning!

[ToraToraTora]

12:04 "because you said "any muslim immigrant" would be rejected so presumably that would extend to spousal visas" - but you mentioned marrying a muslim in the next street.

This is not a white paper, details would need to be ironed out, I merely did what you asked me to do and listed possible measures to halt Islamification. If course there is going to be a lot of whataboutery.

[Peter Pedant]

"Please don't lump all Muslims together"

yup

TTT has made such a mess of this, he might even defect to Labour

[Untitled]

fair enough. i appreciate you doing it, at least i know what you have in mind. plenty of people like to keep it vague. 

[Peter Pedant]

It's Islam that is radical - so any follower of it, ie a Muslim, is radical, too -  noop

Let us hear it for the Manch Libyans - they are the ones who rang up the spooks and said " You DO know that Salman Abedi's brother ( that you are looking for ) is in prison in Tripole?" They didnt