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Northern Ireland Windsor Framework
Rishi Sunak has extolled the Windsor framework a fantastic deal for Northern Ireland in giving them access to both the UK and European markets (placing them a unique position in the world), saying that business leaders want to invest in Northern Ireland, making it the world’s most exciting economic zone (Sunak’s words, not mine).
Given that this Windsor framework is a fantastic deal (for the reasons above), can any Brexiteers explain why the Windsor framework is not being applied the whole of GB (England, Scotland & Wales), thereby making us one of the world’s most exciting economic zones, having access to European markets?
Given that this Windsor framework is a fantastic deal (for the reasons above), can any Brexiteers explain why the Windsor framework is not being applied the whole of GB (England, Scotland & Wales), thereby making us one of the world’s most exciting economic zones, having access to European markets?
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Given it looks like the vast majority of Tory MPs support Sunak on this, for Johnson to think he could win their backing in any future leadership shananigans on the basis of such an attitude, would be rather bizarre.
He is plainly narked that his oven ready deal has had to be taken out of the oven and re-seasoned.
Not to mention that his Bill allowing him to chop bits off his turkey without asking the diners in advance - has been binned.
He is plainly narked that his oven ready deal has had to be taken out of the oven and re-seasoned.
Not to mention that his Bill allowing him to chop bits off his turkey without asking the diners in advance - has been binned.
I think Boris is just quietly working away at getting himself back as leader. There have been reports in the papers of some of the MPs who caused his downfall to be de-selected for the next election. I once worked with someone whose modus operandi was to continuously point out faults in all his competitors so that he appeared to be the best of the bunch (he wasn't). Boris reminds me very much of him. The Tories need everybody pulling the same way at the moment if they have any chance of staying in power at the next election and I fear that Boris will scupper that with his own ambitions coming before the needs of the party and the country.
ichkeria \Inevitably there will be things the purists on either side will not be happy with\
If logic were to dictate, is it right to say the DUP cannot accept the Windsor Framework since 'Act of Union 1800 Article vi' (Irish citizens on same footing)has not been upheld?
I do hope this is not the case!!
If logic were to dictate, is it right to say the DUP cannot accept the Windsor Framework since 'Act of Union 1800 Article vi' (Irish citizens on same footing)has not been upheld?
I do hope this is not the case!!
He's hardly shown statesmanship, he's shown capitulation, like some other PMs before him have done.
I didn't see Boris' full speech but he seemed a bit lukewarm on what I did see. Finding it difficult to vote for it, or something like that, when he ought to have categorically said it was completely inadequate and he would be voting against it. Sunak is risking a return of Troubles by suggesting he's going to steamroller it through even if those most affected are unhappy. Let's hope that's just him trying out empty threats.
I didn't see Boris' full speech but he seemed a bit lukewarm on what I did see. Finding it difficult to vote for it, or something like that, when he ought to have categorically said it was completely inadequate and he would be voting against it. Sunak is risking a return of Troubles by suggesting he's going to steamroller it through even if those most affected are unhappy. Let's hope that's just him trying out empty threats.
"If logic were to dictate, is it right to say the DUP cannot accept the Windsor Framework since 'Act of Union 1800 Article vi' (Irish citizens on same footing)has not been upheld?
I do hope this is not the case!! "
It isn't the case :-)
The issue with the DUP is that we would like them to go back into the Stormont assembly which they have, rather disgracefully, kiboshed for the last however long, thereby stalling NI's government at a very bad time. There is no good time for this, but since devolution in NI, the province does not funtion very well with administration directly from Westminster. The DUP don't "rule" NI: they are not even the largest party. The only "power" they have is the ability to hold the Stormont assembly to ransom, a power shared by all the main parties.
I do hope this is not the case!! "
It isn't the case :-)
The issue with the DUP is that we would like them to go back into the Stormont assembly which they have, rather disgracefully, kiboshed for the last however long, thereby stalling NI's government at a very bad time. There is no good time for this, but since devolution in NI, the province does not funtion very well with administration directly from Westminster. The DUP don't "rule" NI: they are not even the largest party. The only "power" they have is the ability to hold the Stormont assembly to ransom, a power shared by all the main parties.
A stitch up. Again! Reform needed.
Jean-Claude Juncker, who was the president of the European Commisison during most of the Brexit negotiations, has said the Northern Ireland protocol deal gives more authority to the EU than some in Britain are suggesting.
""I think that the European Commission will have more authority than it seems. And as the European court of justice has been reconfirmed in its role as an arbiter when it comes to internal market questions concerning Northern Ireland.
So I think that, although the deal is giving a response to the major British concerns, there is a part of European Union in the deal some in Britain are trying to hide.""
Jean-Claude Juncker, who was the president of the European Commisison during most of the Brexit negotiations, has said the Northern Ireland protocol deal gives more authority to the EU than some in Britain are suggesting.
""I think that the European Commission will have more authority than it seems. And as the European court of justice has been reconfirmed in its role as an arbiter when it comes to internal market questions concerning Northern Ireland.
So I think that, although the deal is giving a response to the major British concerns, there is a part of European Union in the deal some in Britain are trying to hide.""
Boris apart - this is not a good, wonderful etc. deal.
1) The EU likes it, so it has to be good for them. Since we are not part of the EU this must, in itself give pause for thought.
2) Thinking about it, the EU still has an overriding share in some decision-making in a part of the UK - so it can't be acceptable.
Does the USA, Australia, South Africa,Brazil etc., etc. allow the EU to have any influence at all?
The answer is, of course, 'No'.
It is not to do with us if the EU has problems with the status of N. Ireland. It is very much their problem not ours.
If they wish to impose a border between N.I. and Eire - that is up to them and the consequences lie at their door.
To sum up :- I don't care about the politicians, whether Boris is using ot or anything like that, the deal is not good enough.
1) The EU likes it, so it has to be good for them. Since we are not part of the EU this must, in itself give pause for thought.
2) Thinking about it, the EU still has an overriding share in some decision-making in a part of the UK - so it can't be acceptable.
Does the USA, Australia, South Africa,Brazil etc., etc. allow the EU to have any influence at all?
The answer is, of course, 'No'.
It is not to do with us if the EU has problems with the status of N. Ireland. It is very much their problem not ours.
If they wish to impose a border between N.I. and Eire - that is up to them and the consequences lie at their door.
To sum up :- I don't care about the politicians, whether Boris is using ot or anything like that, the deal is not good enough.
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