Johnson’s Wedding Party Moved From Chequers

[FatticusInch]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62092203

Oh no, where now? Nearest KFC? Local phone box?
Maybe they could have that £150,000 tree house built near the residence and hold the celebrations there? Lol.

[Gromit]

Naomi
I didn’t mean just this thread, I meant all over news yesterday and today.

[gulliver1]

Think Boris should invite Angela Raynor, Keir Starmer Theresa May and Dominic Cumming to the top table.
..........,ROTFL...................

[naomi24]

Gromit, in that case I wholeheartedly agree with you.

[ichkeria]

"The whole thing is unbelievable. As I write these words, Gordon Brown is still holed up in Downing Street. He is like some illegal settler in the Sinai desert, lashing himself to the radiator, or like David Brent haunting The Office in that excruciating episode when he refuses to acknowledge that he has been sacked. Isn't there someone -- the Queen's Private Secretary, the nice policeman on the door of No 10 - whose job it is to tell him that the game is up?"
[Boris Johnson, The Daily Telegraph, 10 May 2010]

[FatticusInch]

Indeed Ichkeria.
Political historians agree that Johnson’s legacy will be that he played out the most undignified and narcissistic pantomime during which he had to be dragged to the lectern whilst still blaming others(his party).

[jno]

the story at the time was they only got married because there was some sort of G7 conference on and guests could only take wives, not girlfriends.

Fortunately as far as Westminister Cathedral was concerned, Boris had never been married before so he wasn't a divorcé.

[naomi24]

The church doesn't recognise divorce. If divorced people want to re-marry in a Catholic church, the previous marriage has to granted an 'annullment' by the church - in effect rendering the previous marriage invalid. There are ways and means I guess.

[naomi24]

Jura, he'd been married twice before his marriage to Carrie.

[jno]

Jura, as far as they were concerned Anglican weddings didn't count.

[jno]

I don't know if you can get into this story

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/01/world/europe/boris-johnson-married-catholic-church.html

[diddlydo]

Re the proposed wedding bash at Chequers (which may be moved somewhere else). Mr Cleverly the new boy appointed as Minister for Education is not too clever - he said that a private event such as the wedding bash didn't involve the public purse. What a joke! Has he never been in the vicinity of Chequers when our now-disgraced PM has been in residence? Mega-security, armed police littering every hedgerow within miles, motorcade-type convoy en route etc etc Who pays? Well we all know the answer to that.

[naomi24]

This is freely available.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/30/boris-johnson-carrie-symmonds-married-catcholic-church

//a “simple administrative process” was likely to have been used to declare the previous marriages invalid.

Boris’s two previous marriages (probably) lacked canonical form, that is, are not recognised in Catholic law. So he (probably) didn’t need an annulment.//

Whatever the nitty-gritty of it, it's my guess that ,as Prime Minister, he didn't have too much trouble.

[jno]

Henry VIII had trouble ... as I understand it he had only three wives in the end.

[Peter Pedant]

// Mr and Mrs Johnson were married in a low-key, private ceremony at Westminster Cathedral //

were they? - Roman Catholic - Andy are you there, calling, nay invoking St Ursula? the problem is that the groom has done it more than once ( two wives both living)

how quickly you lose the trappings of power

Lets have a lame duck ministry ( C19 word for gubmint you illiterate proles) so that Boris can have a slap up wedding bash.) dont old habits die hard

[jno]

PP, you'll know this: how many un-annulled marriages did Henry 8 have??

[Peter Pedant]

// are not recognised in Catholic law//
Roman caonical law, chrissakes.
Dont try the Roman ecclesiastical law bit unless you know it.

It's OK its the prime minister, doesnt cut much ice with the Cardinal Primate of England. Remember Diana, Cardinal Hume said no [not yet] in a suitable unctuous ( =oily) fashion. Charlie boy, OK it was Portestant but almost had to make do with a registry office

I admit Ethel Kennedy managed it ( had her ( Roman*)marriage declared a nullity ) after eleven children. wow !

* lardy-dah, candles singing and a cardinal officiating

[Peter Pedant]

Annulled marriages of henry
so you count cutting off the head as the final annulment?

a. Catherine of Aragon - obvious one - annulled in England refused in Rome. Does that count as half-n-half ?
b.Anne Boleyn - annulment by execution
c. Jane Seymour annulment by death
d. Anne of Cleves divorced by settlement "annulled by non consummation"
e. Catherine Howard, again executed - wiki says never annulled
f. Katherine Parr survived

Notes: b. Four days later, on May 19, 1536, Anne Boleyn was unanimously convicted by a court of peers, and Henry's marriage to her was annulled and declared invalid.

so that is three - Katherine, Anne and Anne

Church of England does NOT recognise divorce even tho Henry wangled it somehow

[Peter Pedant]

unannulled three ( the rest) - Jane, and the two last Catherines

[jno]

thanks, PP. I've read somewhere that Catherine H's marriage was also annulled before death, but I've never found any evidence that this was so.