When I See Scenes Like This

[Barsel]

I do wonder if we will ever be rid of this virus. What would it take to stop the young ones being so irresponsible?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8899449/Halloween-revellers-hit-streets-Newcastle-city-remains-Tier-2-lockdown.html

[teacake44]

15.47 Sounds as if you've just come back from the pub.

[Old_Geezer]

You don't control a virus, at best you manage it's present consequences. Delaying the time when most are immune is the wrong aim. All the more so if causing damage elsewhere. We can't want thinking time forever, especially at the cost. One needs a rational balance to replace wild efforts at avoidance.

[teacake44]

And sometimes OG we have to be prepared to sacrifice what we may think we can't do without, to win, or manage the present problem, self inflicted damage to a degree can't always be avoided.

[Barsel]

Looks like Boris is on BBC1 at 4.30pm.

[jno]

ah, I'm afraid I'm going to be washing my hair then, Barsel.

[Old_Geezer]

Probably going to order the latest demands on what is supposed to be a free people. He is continually messing up the virus situation. Let's hope he doesn't mess up the EU trade situation too.

[gulliver1]

16.29 ,He will.

[Zacs-Master]

He has!

[New Judge]

//NJ, your only concern has been the economy,…//

No it isn’t. I have concern for the economy but also for the mental health and wellbeing of the population and for general health of non-Covid sufferers.

//…but unless you have anything constructive to help control a virus your input is useless.//

Sorry you feel that way. I have offered a constructive approach in the form of “targeted protection.” Not all of the population needs protection from the virus. In fact around 80% don’t because if they do contract it the results are unlikely to be serious. The 20% should be provided with proper facilities to isolate if they wish (not, as they were last time, left largely to get on with it). They should be assisted as far as is practical, so they do not have to leave home at all (unless they choose to). Everybody else can carry on with practical precautions such as distancing.

The idea that hospitality venues are plague pits is unfounded. Only around 5% of infections have been traced to them. They have spent huge sums making their facilities “Covid safe” (if there is such a thing) and their closure is unjustified.

The virus is here to stay. In that there was never any doubt. Closing the economy reduces spread for the duration but then it resumes. The government has had about nine months to develop a strategy to deal with it and to keep pursuing the same somewhat ineffective strategy is madness.

// after all its no use me turning up at the pub to get a broken leg fixed, or the weekly shop.//

Indeed not. And it’s no use turning up at A&E expecting to buy a tin of baked beans – which is similarly irrelevant.

[dave50]

Those scenes don't bother me whatsoever.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Some young ones are irresponsible -most are responsible. Scenes like that ? People wearing fancy dress in the street ? Well, perhaps they should show all the older generation parading in Whitby in their Goth gear too. Just to balance things that is. The nastiest, non conforming people I've seen on my few outings to town have been over 50.

[teacake44]

NJ, I've said many times before and you tend to ignore it, kicking the can down the road is the only thing left to do, (at the moment) its all about buying time, for more, and reliable drugs/ vaccine at a push, to be able to give more freedom. And there is no such thing as covid safe anywhere, its obvious that hospitality will continue to claim this for their own ends nothing more. All they care about is filling their cash draw every night of the week regardless.

[bobbinwales]

Your so right teacake. New judge may of realised deep down now they've been wrong all along and you were right. Even rebell Torys have seen the light and agreed with the science and boris and kier and nicola and mark d tonight

[pixie374]

17:29, I don't always agree with nj, but that looks spot on. I don't think it's the "younger generations"... in fact, I think it's quite ironic that up to a few months ago, on AB at least, the general consensus seemed to be that they never socialised at all. They wouldn't even go out for a game of football... as they were all surgically attached to their x boxes in their bedrooms etc... now- we can't keep them in, as they are non-stop partying... it just ends up looking like an attempt to blame "others".
Not to you, barsel, just a general observation of AB...

[andres]

I don't think it is necessary to deliberately gather together in large crowds especially on the eve of a lockdown. It's irresponsible to say the least . They must be stupid.

[youngmafbog]

"NJ, I've said many times before and you tend to ignore it, kicking the can down the road is the only thing left to do"

Garbage. Acceding to your masters the "antibodies" dont last long. So kicking the can down the road will never work.

You also miss the fact that non covid illnesses are being pushed to oe=ne side and will kill many.

Please tell me why Covid patients take precedence over others?

[teacake44]

^^ Well you seem to have it all covered, and all the answers , but one, the solution. I'll await you're solution and we can rap it up, and all can go back to normal and relax.

[alavahalf]

What does.. rap.. mean?

[Jackdaw33]

Typo for 'wrap'.