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ChillDoubt | 13:48 Fri 07th Feb 2020 | News
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Best news I’ve heard all week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51413040

Good to see the Government have finally grown a pair and are fighting these cases with vigour.
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Good news.
One wonders why Bangladesh thinks it can keep denying she has citizenship there due to her mother. Are the international laws not clear on such points ?

The side issue is that all such individuals should be refused entry really. If such refusal is not allowed then international law is flawed. No country should be forced to accept entry to enemies of civilised cultures. And all such should be treated equally.

But the situation is complex. Families can be forced to follow parents and so become victims. But there's no practical way countries can source resource sufficient to know who could return and not be a liability. Parents and guardians need to accept responsibility for innocents they dragged into it, and for such lives ruined.
// angst regardless of what she looks like.//

it is basically what she did rather than how she dressed - including going to Syria
Actually I dont think she is All There judging by her aspirations once she got here - " I just want to live quietly and practise my religion " - er there is slightly more to it than that

Al-howel is pretty crazy - apparently she was bullied by stronger women for showing too much of her face for TV
//One wonders why Bangladesh thinks it can keep denying she has citizenship there due to her mother. //

I shall try to get the determination - something like "the second tier of the immigration appeals tribunal" - the news said the court had relied on
" she was not stateless as she COULD get bangla citizenship" - as sort of interesting idea

I think after stabber on Streatham High St the judges will work hard to keep them all out - I think the kids can be re-educated but it looks like once radicalised the safest place is north east Syria in a wind blown camp

that would be safest place for us hur hur hur
oh it is here

http://siac.decisions.tribunals.gov.uk/Documents/outcomes/documents/Shamima%20Begum%20OPEN%20Judgment%20-%2007.02.2020.pdf

and altho it is called an appeal, it is a first tier tribunal - so this case will run and run and pay and pay for the lawyers
the script will remind you of Trump

the sweet child was born here whilst her Dad had landed immigrancy so she was English, and then he went orf somewhere, and she did to

The leading case Pham v Secretary of stat etc etc
( the "phammer lammer case") where the Viets refuse to accept that Pham is one of them under Viet Law

Their Lordships distinguish therefore state practice and state law - excuse me what was that?
and in their opinion - Viet Law allow Pham to be Viet - and so according to English Law - he is !
even tho the Viets certify he aint

[ and screw the Viets, the Americans won that war in any case]

yup statelessness is not a fact but more a state (!) ha pun intended - of mind of some judges ....


It can run as long as it likes so long as she is not let back in to England.
I mean god we do Law like that on AB every day
oh hi tony I thought everyone had gone to bed
the case report is certainly better than pillow talk ( for sending off to sleep)
LOL, that's what I thought PP.
she could go to Bangladesh it would seem, perhaps that the best she could do.. shouldn't be allowed back here
She made her decision, so she only has herself to blame.
indeed that is the case...
This makes me uncomfortable!e.
Is she evil or just plain stupid?
What about compassion?
It makes no difference TL. She betrayed her country.
at 15 she must have known what she was getting into...have no sympathy..
if isis were not defeated she would still be there praising the caliphate
and all that it does, they lost now she feels remorse? so the parties over and wants to come home oxymoron, she never considered the west her home, let alone the uk the land of the infidel crusaders.
she just wants a free ride on the tax payers jihad benefits.
// This makes me uncomfortable!e. Is she evil or just plain stupid? What about compassion?//

I havent seen her show any ter daah
no - after streatham, I think people wonder if such as Shameem can be set back to their 15 y o state and think no they cant

I mean god - "if I go stabby stabby, then I will go to heaven" who thinks that

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