Is It Likely That A Kingpin In The Belfast Drug Trade Would Need To Moonlight As A Fast Food Delivery Driver?

[sandyRoe]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/drug-lord-daniel-murray-shot-dead-in-car-in-belfast-had-cheated-death-twice-before-34700575.html

[EDDIE51]

Fast food delivery is an ideal 'cover' for drug delivery.
Customer phones for a food delivery and there is an 'extra'in it!

[agchristie]

Eddie is correct, another example would be an ice cream van driver, though that could be more problematic I guess!

What about the classic honeytrap?

By the way Sandy, is the Sinn Fein MP related to Alex Maskey? I have a book which he wrote and signed, from memory, he was the first Republican mayor of Belfast?

[mikey4444]

Stranger things have happened in the Twilight Zone that is Northern Ireland.

[wolf63]

stranger than what happens in Wales Mikey?

[sandyRoe]

Agchristie, he was the first Sinn Fein Lord Mayor though by then he'd dropped the nickname, Boom boom.
I think he's related to Paul Maskey but I'm not sure what the relationship is. Cousins maybe.

[agchristie]

Ah, thanks Sandy.

[jno]

ideal cover maybe, but as the story points out you can get called out anywhere, anytime, by people who may not really want a pizza at all. So a rather risky trade, I would have thought.

[sandyRoe]

I lived in a flat in N Belfast and the young lad downstairs delivered for a takeaway place. Someone convinced him he could make a few quid delivering drugs. The local vigilantes didn't put up with that for long. They give him a beating that put him in hospital. Just few weeks later he took his own life.

[ummmm]

Do the knee capping's still happen?

[sandyRoe]

Ummm, last week one went wrong and the victim died. Two more last night.

[EDDIE51]

^^ I'm appalled that this still goes on, we don't here it in the news nowadays.

[agchristie]

^ I've come across it quite a bit on the Irish newsfeeds but rarely mentioned in England.

[Jackdaw33]

In England Ice Cream vans were used as cover for selling smuggled cigarettes. Not the smartest of disguises, I would have thought. When you hear the jingle of the van at 8 o'clock at night on a cold December evening you have an inkling as to what's going on.

[Peter Pedant]

erm yes possibly
get a copy of Freakonomics
the final chapter is
why do so many drug dealers live with their marms ?

think management structures - kingpin at the top of a triangle and workers at the bottom

Police have a sharp triangle like the shard - not that many pcs on the beat and then zillions of pen pushers making their way up to DCC ACC and CC

and frug dealers have a management triangle a bit like the pediment of the parthenon - huge no of workers and not many ( alive) in management

and the workers dont make an awful lot
so they live with their marms

However Sandy - your man was selling drugz on someone else's turf wasnt he ? Big thing about the troubles is that both the IRA and the loyalists made lots and lots of lovely money out of drugs ( and sod the politics )

[Peter Pedant]

its kids on push bikes in manch

[ No I am not a drug dealer ]

[retrocop]

Well done Tony Bliar. You and your peace accord did a grand job to be sure. Well the terrorists you released from jail thought so!! Well done the Canuck who confiscated ALL the naughty boys toys as well?
Just like Bush jnr on the carrier deck saying we won the war in Iraq !!

[sandyRoe]

I think he wasn't paying his 'tax'. None of hi competitors will be slow in paying theirs now.

[Jackdaw33]

PP's post reminds me of the infamous Ma Baker.