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thanks for the link - but shouldn't you be trying to hide this?. Clicking through I find
///There are HGV driver shortages across Europe, but in the UK Brexit has made things worse.
Many European drivers who went back to their home countries, or decided to work elsewhere, are unable to return.
When the UK was part of the EU single market, they used to be able to come and go as they pleased.
But new immigration rules mean that is no longer the case.
There is also new bureaucracy, and the decline in the value of the pound against the euro since the Brexit vote has made working in the UK less attractive for EU nationals.
The strain on the freight transport system comes before Britain imposes checks on goods coming in from the EU. They have now been delayed until next year - some in January, others in July.
If they prove too intrusive, that could make it even more difficult to encourage European drivers to work in this country. Many drivers are paid by the mile or kilometre rather than by the hour, so delays cost them money.///
///There are HGV driver shortages across Europe, but in the UK Brexit has made things worse.
Many European drivers who went back to their home countries, or decided to work elsewhere, are unable to return.
When the UK was part of the EU single market, they used to be able to come and go as they pleased.
But new immigration rules mean that is no longer the case.
There is also new bureaucracy, and the decline in the value of the pound against the euro since the Brexit vote has made working in the UK less attractive for EU nationals.
The strain on the freight transport system comes before Britain imposes checks on goods coming in from the EU. They have now been delayed until next year - some in January, others in July.
If they prove too intrusive, that could make it even more difficult to encourage European drivers to work in this country. Many drivers are paid by the mile or kilometre rather than by the hour, so delays cost them money.///
The customs checks that are causing such a headache in NI - demanded by the EU, are only one half of the coin.
As the link points out, the checks will also be the other way too.
It's hard to see what advantage is gained by being outside other than the right to claim we aren't governed by "their" laws.
A bit like the drowning man thanking God he banks with the Woolwich :-)
As the link points out, the checks will also be the other way too.
It's hard to see what advantage is gained by being outside other than the right to claim we aren't governed by "their" laws.
A bit like the drowning man thanking God he banks with the Woolwich :-)
// There are 3.5 million truckers in the United States. California has 138,000, the second-most after Texas. Nearly half of those in California are immigrants, most from Mexico or Central America. But as drivers age toward retirement — the average American trucker is 55 — and a shortage grows, Sikh immigrants and their kids are increasingly taking up the job. //
The US are turning to immigrants to tackle the shortage of drivers. We used to do the same. Now because of Brexit, it is a lot more difficult for EU drivers to come here and work. While our European neighbours have on average a 50,000 driver shortage, here in the UK we are 100,000 short - twice as bad.
The US are turning to immigrants to tackle the shortage of drivers. We used to do the same. Now because of Brexit, it is a lot more difficult for EU drivers to come here and work. While our European neighbours have on average a 50,000 driver shortage, here in the UK we are 100,000 short - twice as bad.
Eastern European drivers seem not to help either.
""Germany: Between 45,000 and 60,000 truck drivers are ‘missing’ in 2020 in the German market alone, according to the DSLV and BGL, and this number is only increasing. The IRU predicts a gap of 185,000 drivers by 2027 in Germany.
France: In 2019 it has been reported by several news outlets that France is experiencing a shortage of approximately 43,000 drivers.
Spain: According to Ti estimates, the shortfall of truck drivers in Spain was 15,340 in 2020.
Italy: The shortfall in Italy in 2019 was estimated at around 15,000 drivers according to various sources including National newspaper Corriere della Sera. 4 European Driver Shortages
Denmark, Norway & Sweden: The Scandinavian countries figures are not as high, but the shortage of drivers has spread across Europe. The shortage figures from 2017 for Sweden, Denmark and Norway are 5,000, 2,500 and 3,000, respectively.""
""Germany: Between 45,000 and 60,000 truck drivers are ‘missing’ in 2020 in the German market alone, according to the DSLV and BGL, and this number is only increasing. The IRU predicts a gap of 185,000 drivers by 2027 in Germany.
France: In 2019 it has been reported by several news outlets that France is experiencing a shortage of approximately 43,000 drivers.
Spain: According to Ti estimates, the shortfall of truck drivers in Spain was 15,340 in 2020.
Italy: The shortfall in Italy in 2019 was estimated at around 15,000 drivers according to various sources including National newspaper Corriere della Sera. 4 European Driver Shortages
Denmark, Norway & Sweden: The Scandinavian countries figures are not as high, but the shortage of drivers has spread across Europe. The shortage figures from 2017 for Sweden, Denmark and Norway are 5,000, 2,500 and 3,000, respectively.""
and ... ""The driver shortages have been affecting the global road freight market for around 15 years. The issue comes as the pool of truck drivers is contracting but demand for transport is rising. The COVID-19 pandemic has further exacerbated the already alarming issue of driver shortages as new drivers have been unable to train and take their tests and Covid restrictions make the job even less attractive.
Even before the pandemic a serious cause for concern in the industry, the lack of drivers in the road transport industry was at an all-time high with many of its underlying issues being long-term challenges. Factors such as an aging workforce and insufficient numbers of new recruits, due to working conditions and image issues of the profession, have been plaguing the industry for many years.""
Never let the truth spoil a good wailing and teeth gnashing session. It is becoming an illness, is it not, the desire/need to look for someone to blame because your own lives are unsatisfactory.
Even before the pandemic a serious cause for concern in the industry, the lack of drivers in the road transport industry was at an all-time high with many of its underlying issues being long-term challenges. Factors such as an aging workforce and insufficient numbers of new recruits, due to working conditions and image issues of the profession, have been plaguing the industry for many years.""
Never let the truth spoil a good wailing and teeth gnashing session. It is becoming an illness, is it not, the desire/need to look for someone to blame because your own lives are unsatisfactory.
Shortage of drivers in China as well. Was that Blexit?
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//We need to rejoin the EU single market for goods.//
No we do not. The very worst thing that any country could do is to join what is ostensibly a single market (good idea) but what is, in practice simply a method of exercising political control. Membership of the Single Market entails agreeing to the EU’s four freedoms – of goods, people, services and capital. Goods and services most people can live with. But the other two are the cause of a multitude of problems which have confronted the UK in increasing severity over the past thirty or forty years. Other countries seem to manage relatively free trade without the need for freedom of movement. The EU does not - not without considerable strings attached which have nothing to do with trade. A quote from some of their blurb:
"EU's trade policy is also used as a vehicle for the promotion of European principles and values, from democracy and human rights to environment and social rights."
There is no reason why frictionless trade should depend on the adoption of European (i.e. EU) principles and values.
No we do not. The very worst thing that any country could do is to join what is ostensibly a single market (good idea) but what is, in practice simply a method of exercising political control. Membership of the Single Market entails agreeing to the EU’s four freedoms – of goods, people, services and capital. Goods and services most people can live with. But the other two are the cause of a multitude of problems which have confronted the UK in increasing severity over the past thirty or forty years. Other countries seem to manage relatively free trade without the need for freedom of movement. The EU does not - not without considerable strings attached which have nothing to do with trade. A quote from some of their blurb:
"EU's trade policy is also used as a vehicle for the promotion of European principles and values, from democracy and human rights to environment and social rights."
There is no reason why frictionless trade should depend on the adoption of European (i.e. EU) principles and values.
NJ NIis in the single market for goods. That is, IMO where the UK should be. It doesn't have to talk the whole package.
NI is a part of the UK and should be treated the same as the rest of the country, but - and this I am afraid is the brutal truth many will not face up to, in this instance the UK should fall in with NI not vice versa. because there is simply no other viablde way of handling the border conumdrum. If there was it would have been thought of by now.
Dominic Raab told the people of NI that they had "the best of both worlds" - he was actually correct, but actually that "best of both worlds" only really works if the rest of the UK is also a part of the paradise he wished to deny it :-)
NI is a part of the UK and should be treated the same as the rest of the country, but - and this I am afraid is the brutal truth many will not face up to, in this instance the UK should fall in with NI not vice versa. because there is simply no other viablde way of handling the border conumdrum. If there was it would have been thought of by now.
Dominic Raab told the people of NI that they had "the best of both worlds" - he was actually correct, but actually that "best of both worlds" only really works if the rest of the UK is also a part of the paradise he wished to deny it :-)
//It doesn't have to talk the whole package.//
NI has been afforded a special status following the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. If the UK insisted on full access to the Single Market it would be obliged to take “the full package” (i.e. the four “fundamental freedoms”) in the same way that Norway is:
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“It [the agreement] guarantees the EU Single Market's four freedoms, as well as non-discrimination and equal rules of competition throughout the EEA area.”
// NI is a part of the UK and should be treated the same as the rest of the country,//
I agree absolutely. The NI Protocol is a disgrace and should never have been signed. It conflicts with the Act of Union, and leaves NI citizens subject to legislation over which they have no control. I know that these and other objections have been quietly brushed aside by the UK government and those decisions were considered and dismissed by the High Court, ruling that the government has the authority to take these actions. Whether they have or not is immaterial. They should not have done so. In their eagerness to help the EU protect its single market it has destroyed that of the UK. This is leaving aside the almost psychotic nature which the EU has imposed the agreement where more than 20% of all customs checks being made on goods arriving in the EU are made on goods arriving in NI from GB.
There are plenty of ways this situation could have been avoided if the UK was dealing with a pragmatic trading partner. But it isn’t. It’s dealing with an intransigent bureaucratic behemoth which seeks to punish a recalcitrant UK for leaving its sphere. The entire Protocol needs to be ditched and the EU left to devise ways to protect its border.
NI has been afforded a special status following the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. If the UK insisted on full access to the Single Market it would be obliged to take “the full package” (i.e. the four “fundamental freedoms”) in the same way that Norway is:
https:/
“It [the agreement] guarantees the EU Single Market's four freedoms, as well as non-discrimination and equal rules of competition throughout the EEA area.”
// NI is a part of the UK and should be treated the same as the rest of the country,//
I agree absolutely. The NI Protocol is a disgrace and should never have been signed. It conflicts with the Act of Union, and leaves NI citizens subject to legislation over which they have no control. I know that these and other objections have been quietly brushed aside by the UK government and those decisions were considered and dismissed by the High Court, ruling that the government has the authority to take these actions. Whether they have or not is immaterial. They should not have done so. In their eagerness to help the EU protect its single market it has destroyed that of the UK. This is leaving aside the almost psychotic nature which the EU has imposed the agreement where more than 20% of all customs checks being made on goods arriving in the EU are made on goods arriving in NI from GB.
There are plenty of ways this situation could have been avoided if the UK was dealing with a pragmatic trading partner. But it isn’t. It’s dealing with an intransigent bureaucratic behemoth which seeks to punish a recalcitrant UK for leaving its sphere. The entire Protocol needs to be ditched and the EU left to devise ways to protect its border.
//they can use Mexican drivers, but we cannot use Eastern Europeans anymore.//
Well thats not entirely true is it?
They dont want to come here, they can earn good money in their own countries now that the EU has pumped billions into them. Add that to IR35 and the corresponding drop in (already poor) pay and you have a lot of your problems.
Blaming Brexit alone is not helpful. You wont solve the underlying problem unless you open your eyes to the actual cause.
Well thats not entirely true is it?
They dont want to come here, they can earn good money in their own countries now that the EU has pumped billions into them. Add that to IR35 and the corresponding drop in (already poor) pay and you have a lot of your problems.
Blaming Brexit alone is not helpful. You wont solve the underlying problem unless you open your eyes to the actual cause.
// They dont want to come here, they can earn good money in their own countries now that the EU has pumped billions into them. //
Romanians joined the EU in 2013, but many chosen to come and work here until last year. The ending of freedom of moment to the UK means it is a lot harder to get in. You may cheer that that is the success of Brexit, barring foreigners from coming here. But then there is no one to do the sh*tty jobs and we all suffer.
EU money that goes to countries like Romania is spent on infrastructure projects - improving transport, improving housing, it does not subsidise lorry drivers’ wages.
Romanians joined the EU in 2013, but many chosen to come and work here until last year. The ending of freedom of moment to the UK means it is a lot harder to get in. You may cheer that that is the success of Brexit, barring foreigners from coming here. But then there is no one to do the sh*tty jobs and we all suffer.
EU money that goes to countries like Romania is spent on infrastructure projects - improving transport, improving housing, it does not subsidise lorry drivers’ wages.
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