Do You Prefer Fact Or Fiction?

[nailit]

After 55 years on this earth I prefer fact.
As much as it pains me, as much as it upsets me, I prefer facts over faith.
A few weeks ago I was nearly suicidal. Still prefer facts to 'faith'. If I had ended my life then, I would have been dead, end off, no atheist in foxhole here.
Just dont understand this religious preoccupation with living forever....
I honesty just dont get it?
What the hell are you going to to FOREVER?
It would be like watching a game of football that went on forever...there wouldnt be a point,

[Atheist]

fiveleaves; how do you square your first paragraph with your third? They contradict each other. You don't win any intellectual respect by this sort of muddle.

[Mamyalynne]

Fiveleaves first paragraph was a reprise of Nailit's earlier response re his own life.

[Mamyalynne]

Each daily update on this thread makes more and more unsettling reading and contains a lot of sadness.

[eve1974]

It does indeed mamy.

[Theland]

Naomi and Nailit. Stop tut tutting. Talking about arrogance.
Facts are facts and facts don't care about your feelings.
Get used to them..

[naomi24]

Theland, you don't have any facts. Get used to it.

[Theland]

So you like to think, and often repeat.

[naomi24]

Theland, if you were in possession of 'facts' there would be evidence to support them, they would be universally acknowledged and there would be no argument. That's all there is to it. You have no 'facts'.

[Theland]

Oh but they are universally acknowledged by believers the world over.
And scientists the world over are in an almost eternal tizzy trying to square the circle of creation .... without a creator, life without ....... a life giver, and argue amongst themselves over the pseudo science Darwinism.
But don't let any of that ruffle your self satisfying feathers.
That would not do.

[naomi24]

What are self satisfying feathers? I’ve never heard of those?

[pixie374]

Theland, if these were facts rather than beliefs, you would be posting in Science instead.

[eve1974]

//Theland, if these were facts rather than beliefs, you would be posting in Science instead.//. to be fair Theland is only responding to the OP which was in Religion & Spirituality

[nailit]

//All lives matter! Your life is of infinite value to God and what you do with it matters//
So why worry about the destination of my eternal soul?

If my son turned out to be a serial killer, I'd still love him. I'd certainly acknowledge that his crimes were heinous, but I'd love him none the less.
And yet the Biblical god would have you stone your average rebellious teenager to death. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

[nailit]

Eve1974,
I can safely say...and hand on heart...that my morality beats your God's morality every time. Because your God's morality is sick beyond belief to any one who has actually taken the time to read the Bible.

[nailit]

//Facts are facts and facts don't care about your feelings.
Get used to them//

//Oh but they are universally acknowledged by believers the world over//

Oh...the irony!!

[davebro]

When I started going in pubs the rule was - Never argue about Religion or Politics.

[eve1974]

Yup unfortunately Some people will remain argumentative - whether in the pubs or out

[nailit]

//Yup unfortunately Some people will remain argumentative - whether in the pubs or out//

And others will question your beliefs ... 1: peter 3:16
Whereby you are told to be ready with an answer.

[nailit]

Not even in a pub & got no interest in politics...

[Theland]

You can nitpick and criticise all you like, but He is real and not going away.
I think that deep down you already know this, but His reality makes you uncomfortable. Otherwise you would say you couldn't care less.
You are never going to make an atheist out of me, or anybody with similarly robust beliefs.