Do You Prefer Fact Or Fiction?

[nailit]

After 55 years on this earth I prefer fact.
As much as it pains me, as much as it upsets me, I prefer facts over faith.
A few weeks ago I was nearly suicidal. Still prefer facts to 'faith'. If I had ended my life then, I would have been dead, end off, no atheist in foxhole here.
Just dont understand this religious preoccupation with living forever....
I honesty just dont get it?
What the hell are you going to to FOREVER?
It would be like watching a game of football that went on forever...there wouldnt be a point,

[pixie374]

Give up if you want to. A mere human woman can create an independent life within 7-9 months. From lifeless material. Where does God come in, or biogenesis?

[pixie374]

Miller Uray //The Miller-Urey experiment provided the first evidence that organic molecules needed for life could be formed from inorganic components. Some scientists support the RNA world hypothesis, which suggests that the first life was self-replicating RNA//

Presumably, you have also seen how inaccurate they were shown to be?

[Theland]

Yes Millar / Urey was a failure.
Initially they thought they had solved the puzzle. But no.
A woman having a baby is far from something from nothing!
Please do raise the bar a bit.
This is totally boring now.

[nailit]

//This is totally boring now//
Stuff cant come out of nothing except my magical God.
Yeah! Its boring.
Stuff and things cant happen unless magic (like mythological talking animals and enchanted trees and stuff)

REALLY? :-)

I really despair at the human race.
People in the 21st century believing in talking animals for f*** sakes.
A snake talked humans into rebelling against God by eating from a magical tree (that would apparentlly grant them knowledge)....that God didnt want them to eat of have in the first place...
But beforehand they didnt know that its wrong anyway. (How could they, they didnt know right from wrong?)
Load of cobblers.


Scientific age.....
Got no idea.....
But can definetaly say that a talking snake, an enchanted garden, a couple of dirt people (one of whom was a rib) and a piece of fruit,
Is most definatly not the origin of our modern world

(Save the Absurd flood story for later...(BTW were the cherubim that garded the Garden Of Eden, destroyed in the flood? ) Asking for a friend?

[mibn2cweus]

Speaking of boring, the flood and such, it's alleged that on the 39th day Noah, overcome with boredom, chose Unicorn for his evening victuals.

Well you all know how that story ends.

[Theland]

Nailit :- What do YOU think caused the universe to exist, caused simple chemicals to come together as life?
Come on, have a go instead of ranting.

[naomi24]

Theland, if anything is totally boring it’s you. Year after year you drone on with the same old tripe. You have nothing to justify attributing creation to something for which there is no evidence whatsoever so please think
about what you’re saying- just for once.

[pixie374]

I put this on the wrong thread...//And theland, I know you're "bored". But feel free to give a basic biology lesson, if that helps... I'm always willing to listen//

[Theland]

''The same old tripe,'' is nothing more than me saying that there must have been a first cause.

Basic biology? Well the female egg is far from basic as you assert Pixie.
Please tell me you were joking!

[pixie374]

I never said it was, theland. I said it needs a chemical reaction to initiate life.

[naomi24]

No, that isn’t the same old tripe, theland. The same old tripe is you claiming to KNOW not only the cause but who and what caused it. You don’t.

[pixie374]

//The same old tripe,'' is nothing more than me saying that there must have been a first cause.//
But no first cause for god. You are contradicting yourself.

[Theland]

Pixie - No first cause for God who is eternal, a Spirit, who lives outside of and beyond time, which is only a part of His creation.

[Theland]

Naomi, indeed I do know.

[pixie374]

Where is your evidence for that, theland? And what was your point about life coming from non-life by a chemical reaction?

[Theland]

The evidence is in the bible.

Try as they might, scientists cannot create life in the laboratory.
Life is from God, there is no other source.

[mibn2cweus]

The only upside I see to accusing 'God' of creating life is you're unlikely to be sued for slander.

[pixie374]

It isn't, theland. I've read the bible- and no evidence. Scientists have created life in labs...

[pixie374]

As have women...

[Theland]

MIBs, I'm astonished that you show no interest in the big questions.