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Who Is Ruling The Earth Satan Or God Or Man

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locusts | 10:22 Fri 07th Aug 2020 | Religion & Spirituality
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IS Satan a ruler of this system or this world - because it is in such a mess and he is using man to destroy himself -- because of HIS selfish desires.
The say Bible at John .14.30 it's giving me the information .???
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MIBS - ''Reality rules.''
That is a bit ethereal, and does not say much.
Nailit - What did you miss? Please tell.
My problem, Theland, is your perpetual penchant for playing the innocent victim by accusing others falsely. I wouldn’t expect the courtesy of an apology from you but at least the record has been set straight.
Apologise for what? Your lack of understanding?
You just don't get it do you?
Our free will fulfills Gods purposes, yet we remain free to do good or evil.
My problem, Naomi, is your perpetual penchant for adapting a superior attitude even when your knowledge is so obviously flawed.
And your reasons for asking the questions?
No, Theland, you don’t get it. Don’t falsely accuse people.
I have not falsely accused anybody.
Your recent post to me cried, ''shame.''
That is shameful and a false premise.
No one dictates the terms of reality, not me nor any self-appointed or elected 'rulers'. Reality ultimately determines (for us all) what is real. If reality seems ethereal to you than perhaps you should become better acquainted with it.
My word MIBs, that is a ghost you have written.
Words have no life of their own you know.
Only the Word does.

I have acquainted myself with the best theories of reality that science has to offer, All Khalili, Krause, Carroll, Hawking, Penrose etc and if you can do better than those gentlemen, I would love to hear about it.
Sadly, they all tamper around the edges of ultimate reality without ever reaching their goal, but they are all hampered by a metaphysical prohibition that disallows them from even considering design in the universe.
But, as I say, if you can throw more light on the subject, I am eager to learn.
// Don’t falsely accuse people.//
oh god you two are still at it - - some see false accusations where others see reasoned refutation

thank god for the good sense of AB mods this week end
( altho they did overdo it when they skewered one of mine theother week)
Theland - // Andy - What do I do to placate you and avoid your criticism?
Change my views? Abandon my beliefs? What? //

Do you honestly want me to dignify that 'Poor little me, I am so under attack, here I am, burning martyr yet again, all I do is try and spread God's word ….'.

I would never have the absence of self-respect and basic dignity to ask anyone on the planet what I must do to please them, and if I did I wouldn't be starting with a complete stranger on a website!

But if you want to know -

Stop self-pitying, stop being nasty, stop being superior, treat people with a degree of respect for the intelligent adults that they are, and drop this all-consuming 'I know, and you don't because you are too thick to know what I know ...' schtick.

If you don't get answers you like on here - and you don't, go somewhere else, not because I say so, but because your common sense tells you that you are wasting your time.

the only people who agree with you are your fellow fervents, everyone else either ignores you, or endures the fruitless nonsense of trying to get you to respond to simply questions without prevarication or petty nastiness - usually both.

I don't expect you to remember this past tomorrow, you;ve been told the same enough times by enough people, and it just doesn't sink in.

Read my post at 15:39, which you have either not read, or read and used as an excuse for another pity party and think about what it means.

I don't care one way or the other if you change your beliefs, or abandon your views, or never post on here ever again.

But if you do - and you will - try and appreciate that just because you have read a few books and watched a few videos, it doesn't make you God's agent on earth.

I want you to grow up and grow a pair.

That's what I want you to do.
Sounds like Man is the one that can actually get anything done around here so.. Man. Final answer.
Andy you are so wrong again.
I am not self pitying, just defending myself.
Remember it was Naomi who told me I am shamed for my belief, which is entirely biblical.
And so it goes on and on and on.
Is it self pity to object to be being spoken down to?
Like you are doing now.
And me superior? No. Not me. In fact that is one of my objections, being spoken to in a superior fashion, it seems to be a trend on here.
If you have any more complaints let me know.
Ok Theland, I'll leave it to others.

You don't listen, you ask what to do and then ignore it.

The next time I think about responding to you, I am going to stare out of the window instead.

It's less of a waste of time.
Theland, Shame/Pride - opposite ends of the spectrum. You say that your belief is entirely biblical as though that is something worthy and somehow justifies your defence of the morally abhorrent - genocide, vengeance and retribution, the imposition of guilt and fear on the vulnerable, etc., etc. It doesn’t. Does that make you proud?
Ah we're getting somewhere at last.
Now you have condensed it all down I am happy to answer.
Mind you, that's quite a list!
You still have not told me why your posts.
What are you trying to achieve?
Yes my belief is entirely biblical, and I consider myself blessed, and yes, I am very proud of my Lord Jesus Christ and my personal relationship with Him.
As for the rest of the list of your criticisms, they on!y illustrate your lack of knowledge, or rather, knowledge limited to the superficial.
I simply don't understand why you go on about the bible in such a fashion, as you consider it a work of fiction.

But, remember your history.
Whenever, and wherever belief in God has been abandoned, to be replaced by atheism, what has followed has been a bloodbath on an enormous scale.
The twentieth century was the bloodiest in history, due mainly to atheism.
Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler to name just a few, killed millions and millions of innocent people, unfettered by the restraint of a moral conscience.
But you applaud atheism of course.
You are too quick to criticise that which you don't understand, and you are nothing but tedious.
You know the gospel, (I presume), bit you not only reject it, but attack it vehemently on a regular basis.
Any believer who is new to the faith, would be intimidated by you. So what do you get out of it, except mischief?
Do yourself a favour and research it yourself, your salvation is in your own hands.
And no, your assertion that death is the end is wrong.
Don't leave it until it's too late to find out the truth.
Theland, //I am very proud of my Lord Jesus Christ and my personal relationship with Him.//

That wasn’t the question. I’ll repeat it. Are you proud of YOURSELF for defending the morally abhorrent - genocide, vengeance and retribution, the imposition of guilt and fear on the vulnerable, etc., etc?

//The twentieth century was the bloodiest in history, due mainly to atheism.
Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Pol Pot, to name just a few, killed millions and millions of innocent people, unfettered by the restraint of a moral conscience.//

None of what any of those people did was done in the name of atheism, but that aside, you say that man is a sinner led by Satan. Okay. Let’s go along with that …. but then it begs the question what is a perfect, infallible, just, loving and compassionate God’s excuse for committing genocide and for causing pain and suffering to millions?

Incidentally, Hitler wasn’t an atheist - but you knew that.
//And no, your assertion that death is the end is wrong.
Don't leave it until it's too late to find out the truth. //

And please stop scaremongering. You've no business messing with minds.

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