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What Will End Religion?
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`Lets face it Religion brings nothing into humanity apart from war and is only used as a power of control and money. What will actually be the final straw when these old books are merely just a joke to out future generation? They will be looking back and laughing how stupid we were to follow what is merely a fairy tale.
What scientific discoveries will stop religion or what events?
What scientific discoveries will stop religion or what events?
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Yes, one advantage of taking the doomed route means they will no longer need to knock on my door.
00:21 Mon 16th Feb 2015
Replace the 'fairy tales' with 50SOGrey. How many starving, sick & disposessed will that succour? How many free schools, hospitals & orphanges do athiests run? Most of third world has been educated by faith schools. If you check your forefathers you will find they were originally educated by a faith school, an education that has passed down the generations to you..
Will atheists follow in these footsteps?
Will atheists follow in these footsteps?
benhilton, I’ve put no words into your mouth. I simply conveyed my impression of your posts.
Grasscarp, //We are all entitled to our views//
Yes, we are – except, it seems, people who disagree with you and this isn’t the first time you've become unnecessarily tetchy with them. As you say, so much for free speech.
Of course it’s reasonable to expect a high level of evidence to endorse unsubstantiated claims.
Grasscarp, //We are all entitled to our views//
Yes, we are – except, it seems, people who disagree with you and this isn’t the first time you've become unnecessarily tetchy with them. As you say, so much for free speech.
Of course it’s reasonable to expect a high level of evidence to endorse unsubstantiated claims.
tamborine, //If you check your forefathers you will find they were originally educated by a faith school//
That’s because in the past the Church ruled everyone and everything. That is no longer the case. If you think non-religious charitable organisations are thin on the ground, you’re very much mistaken. There are thousands of them including Oxfam, Unicef, Amnesty International, Medecins Sans Frontieres, and the Red Cross.
That’s because in the past the Church ruled everyone and everything. That is no longer the case. If you think non-religious charitable organisations are thin on the ground, you’re very much mistaken. There are thousands of them including Oxfam, Unicef, Amnesty International, Medecins Sans Frontieres, and the Red Cross.
Naomi I am not tetchy. Another Example of you putting your own interpretation on to others words here. I was simply in support of Ben who said you were putting words into his mouth.
You did same thing to me earlier today and I felt sympathy for him.
We are all entitled to post with or without your consent.
You did same thing to me earlier today and I felt sympathy for him.
We are all entitled to post with or without your consent.
agchristie - "... Shame on the mod responsible [for removing birdie's post]..."
Indeed. It's happened rather a lot of late. I think someone on the AB team has taken a particular dislike to my posts. If I post anything remotely contentious they vanish pretty quickly. I wouldn't be too surprised to see that this one has vanished by the morning.
vulcan42 - "... one of Site Rules is do not report a post just because they disagree with you. I would suggest the person who removed your post has not applied this rule to their decision..."
I suspect that you are correct. But once it's gone it's gone. Unless of course I re-post it.
Indeed. It's happened rather a lot of late. I think someone on the AB team has taken a particular dislike to my posts. If I post anything remotely contentious they vanish pretty quickly. I wouldn't be too surprised to see that this one has vanished by the morning.
vulcan42 - "... one of Site Rules is do not report a post just because they disagree with you. I would suggest the person who removed your post has not applied this rule to their decision..."
I suspect that you are correct. But once it's gone it's gone. Unless of course I re-post it.
I am also annoyed that it was removed. Not just that it didn't appear to be insulting any named individual but also (and mainly) because it was a well crafted set of words, which chimed with my way of thinking, that I had half a mind to revisit, copy and save to file. Or at least link to it when I wanted to refer other people to it.
Of course, if a big organisation, with large amounts of money, was threatening to come down on our beloved AB like a ton of bricks, then I can understand entirely why the Ed acted as they did.
If it was deemed an ad hominem attack then let us at least pick over the wording so that the rest of us do not repeat the mistake. It was a broad-brush statement about -all- theists, so it is not as if any one faith group can claim it was injurious specifically towards them.
Of course, if a big organisation, with large amounts of money, was threatening to come down on our beloved AB like a ton of bricks, then I can understand entirely why the Ed acted as they did.
If it was deemed an ad hominem attack then let us at least pick over the wording so that the rest of us do not repeat the mistake. It was a broad-brush statement about -all- theists, so it is not as if any one faith group can claim it was injurious specifically towards them.
@seadogg
//A case can be made that religion has been around about as long as homo sapiens. //
Indeed. Traces of red ochre on a famed Neanderthal skeleton (in Spain, if I recall correctly) are suggestive of burial rites. For the red ochre to be applied to the bone suggests de-fleshing prior to placing the bones in the cave (or ochre was on the skin and the decay process deposited it). So reverence towards the dead dates back to six-figures BCE dates.
//It was born of fear //
You were there??
//about the time than mankind became aware of the inevitability of death and was reinforced by the awareness of our vulnerability in the natural world- especially during darkness. //
Acknowledged. Lions famously hunt at night. Fire frightens them away but we find it somehow comforting. I would have worshipped fire, had I lived under that condition of threat.
//The civilisation of humans followed the revolution in agriculture but the fear has persisted and became organised into established creeds which threatened each other. //
Organised religions threaten their own adherents too: "Love Me. Or I'll burn you."
//There is no way out and Religion will never end.
21:36 Tue 17th Feb//
Correct. There's a new one emerging every century, of late. It's a lucrative business, too. A TV preacher, in the USofA, stands a good chance of working their way up to a fleet of limos and a private jet while still young enough to enjoy them. I don't know why we aren't all at it.
Actually I do. It's called a conscience.
//A case can be made that religion has been around about as long as homo sapiens. //
Indeed. Traces of red ochre on a famed Neanderthal skeleton (in Spain, if I recall correctly) are suggestive of burial rites. For the red ochre to be applied to the bone suggests de-fleshing prior to placing the bones in the cave (or ochre was on the skin and the decay process deposited it). So reverence towards the dead dates back to six-figures BCE dates.
//It was born of fear //
You were there??
//about the time than mankind became aware of the inevitability of death and was reinforced by the awareness of our vulnerability in the natural world- especially during darkness. //
Acknowledged. Lions famously hunt at night. Fire frightens them away but we find it somehow comforting. I would have worshipped fire, had I lived under that condition of threat.
//The civilisation of humans followed the revolution in agriculture but the fear has persisted and became organised into established creeds which threatened each other. //
Organised religions threaten their own adherents too: "Love Me. Or I'll burn you."
//There is no way out and Religion will never end.
21:36 Tue 17th Feb//
Correct. There's a new one emerging every century, of late. It's a lucrative business, too. A TV preacher, in the USofA, stands a good chance of working their way up to a fleet of limos and a private jet while still young enough to enjoy them. I don't know why we aren't all at it.
Actually I do. It's called a conscience.
agchristie you have the evidence (that they didn't have centuries ago ) in your own purse/handbag/wallet - that contactless payment card .
OK , so you're not convinced , maybe you think ben's a bit of a nutter , but for God's sake keep using cash , don't make it easy for them to bring the rest of this agenda in .
OK , so you're not convinced , maybe you think ben's a bit of a nutter , but for God's sake keep using cash , don't make it easy for them to bring the rest of this agenda in .
Naomi what has been predicted for the end times is not going to be pleasant and I am not looking forward to it .
Does " inevitability " mean you sit back and do nothing ? Do whatever you can to stop it or delay it .
I'll try and elaborate what worries me about these cards . Currently , you get one , you activate it by phone or on line . In future your new card comes through , only this time when you activate it you click to accept a privacy policy and security condition , for your own benefit . You continue to use your cards , cash use decreases to such a point , maybe less than 10% , and they decide to withdraw cash altogether . Your new card comes through , you agree to accept the privacy policy and the security condition , but , hello , what's this ? - they've added a third political condition , you agree to support a politician who you disagree with ? You click " i decline " and go back to cash-oh...you cant do that anymore . Because that card is the only way you can now buy anything , you reluctantly click to support the politician who you dislike . Congratulations.....you just accepted the mark of the beast....
Naomi the scenario that I outlined above could turn out to be a pile of far-fetched codswallop , but we have it in our power to ensure that it never gets that far by continuing to use cash .
You may think I'm right , you may think I'm misguided , you may think I'm a fruitcake , whatever , just keep using cash .
Does " inevitability " mean you sit back and do nothing ? Do whatever you can to stop it or delay it .
I'll try and elaborate what worries me about these cards . Currently , you get one , you activate it by phone or on line . In future your new card comes through , only this time when you activate it you click to accept a privacy policy and security condition , for your own benefit . You continue to use your cards , cash use decreases to such a point , maybe less than 10% , and they decide to withdraw cash altogether . Your new card comes through , you agree to accept the privacy policy and the security condition , but , hello , what's this ? - they've added a third political condition , you agree to support a politician who you disagree with ? You click " i decline " and go back to cash-oh...you cant do that anymore . Because that card is the only way you can now buy anything , you reluctantly click to support the politician who you dislike . Congratulations.....you just accepted the mark of the beast....
Naomi the scenario that I outlined above could turn out to be a pile of far-fetched codswallop , but we have it in our power to ensure that it never gets that far by continuing to use cash .
You may think I'm right , you may think I'm misguided , you may think I'm a fruitcake , whatever , just keep using cash .
pun, pun. ;)
I only know bits and pieces of what Bill Hicks referred to as "that whacky Revelations ending" due to online conversations with people echoing much of what Ben is saying. Even before chip-and-pin, they regarded credit cards as being a suitable match to the mark.
I only wanted to emphasise, at this point, that the story says that The Beast rises and introduces the mark. God's role is somewhat passive and these things happen against his will. There is suffering, struggle, battle and he wins in the end.
Odd, because he always has the option of just leaving us in peace. :-/
I only know bits and pieces of what Bill Hicks referred to as "that whacky Revelations ending" due to online conversations with people echoing much of what Ben is saying. Even before chip-and-pin, they regarded credit cards as being a suitable match to the mark.
I only wanted to emphasise, at this point, that the story says that The Beast rises and introduces the mark. God's role is somewhat passive and these things happen against his will. There is suffering, struggle, battle and he wins in the end.
Odd, because he always has the option of just leaving us in peace. :-/
Hypognosis - "... I am also annoyed that it was removed. Not just that it didn't appear to be insulting any named individual but also (and mainly) because it was a well crafted set of words..."
Thank you. I appreciate your kind comment.
It doesn't so much annoy me that my post was removed as it does that no explanation or justification has been forthcoming from the moderators despite my requests for one. I would just like to know what rule(s) I have violated so that I can construct my future posts so that they fully comply with the relevant editorial standards.
As I said previously, a number of my recent posts have inexplicably vanished despite the fact that they were generic and non-specific in their content. It would seem that where my posts are concerned, someone has their finger on a hair-trigger.
Thank you. I appreciate your kind comment.
It doesn't so much annoy me that my post was removed as it does that no explanation or justification has been forthcoming from the moderators despite my requests for one. I would just like to know what rule(s) I have violated so that I can construct my future posts so that they fully comply with the relevant editorial standards.
As I said previously, a number of my recent posts have inexplicably vanished despite the fact that they were generic and non-specific in their content. It would seem that where my posts are concerned, someone has their finger on a hair-trigger.
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