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If You - How Recognize The Resurrection Of The Soul
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if the soul goes to heaven ?????
These four people /returns to life /
represent people who had died
Jesus have been dead for three days and was resurrect //
to life as a spirit..
he did not go to heaven //straight away-
it was 40 days later he arrived in heaven
John 20- 17 where the go --??????????
1 Lazarus has been / death //for four days /and then-
resurrected to life ?
John -11 . 21--26 No comment about heaven
2 little girl of 12 was resurrected from the death.
A possibility/death / for two day's
Mark 5-41 - Luke 8 -- 51 No comment about heaven
3---- a young man // in his early 20 //death// approximately two day's
and return from the death. to life
Luke 7 -10 No comment about heaven
4 -/ Peter resurrected Tabitha from death
acts 9—39 No comment about heave
All these people who had died...
And the church say we all go to heaven.
With a great experience of see their Creator or god
Matthew 10:28) And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul
; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Ge·hen′na
( pit grave sheol back to the dust)
Acts 3:23) Indeed, any soul that does not listen to that Prophet will be completely destroyed from among the people.
who will be resurrected
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Well has it been said before, “Faith is taking in God word.” But how can one take God his word if one knows little if anything about what God has said in his Word? As the apostle Paul wrote: “How will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard?” (Rom. 10:14)
Jesus said .........you think that I cannot appeal to my Father to supply me at this moment more than twelve legions of angels? 54 In that case, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that it must take place this way?” 55 In that hour Jesus said to the crowds: “Have YOU come out with swords and clubs as against a robber to arrest me? Day after day I used to sit in the temple teaching, and yet YOU did not take me into custody. 56 But all this has taken place for the scriptures of the prophets to be fulfilled-Matt 26:53-56
locusts @ The idea of a resurrection is not just knowing that there is going to a resurrection, but having that hope, while we may mourn the loss of loved ones, we will not mourn as do others that have no hope.
No, that hope will enable you to keep your integrity toward God come what may, knowing that by means of the resurrection everlasting life is assured us in God’s new world.—1 Thess. 4:13.
Jesus said .........you think that I cannot appeal to my Father to supply me at this moment more than twelve legions of angels? 54 In that case, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that it must take place this way?” 55 In that hour Jesus said to the crowds: “Have YOU come out with swords and clubs as against a robber to arrest me? Day after day I used to sit in the temple teaching, and yet YOU did not take me into custody. 56 But all this has taken place for the scriptures of the prophets to be fulfilled-Matt 26:53-56
locusts @ The idea of a resurrection is not just knowing that there is going to a resurrection, but having that hope, while we may mourn the loss of loved ones, we will not mourn as do others that have no hope.
No, that hope will enable you to keep your integrity toward God come what may, knowing that by means of the resurrection everlasting life is assured us in God’s new world.—1 Thess. 4:13.
Fact is that 2 or 3 thousand years ago the Middle East was much like India is now with lots of competeing holy men wandering about with lots of competing claims about them.
This is why there's no or little contemporary evidence about Jesus - at the time he was nothing special.
To even start to be taken seriously you had to heal people and raise the dead.
Even in the old testament there are two phophets performing resurrections
1. Elijah raised the son of the Zarephath widow from the dead (1 Kings 17:17-22).
2. Elisha raised the son of the Shunammite woman from the dead (2 Kings 4:32-35).
There's even someone in Nigeria on youtube being raised from the dead
Easy to see how these accounts come about
This is why there's no or little contemporary evidence about Jesus - at the time he was nothing special.
To even start to be taken seriously you had to heal people and raise the dead.
Even in the old testament there are two phophets performing resurrections
1. Elijah raised the son of the Zarephath widow from the dead (1 Kings 17:17-22).
2. Elisha raised the son of the Shunammite woman from the dead (2 Kings 4:32-35).
There's even someone in Nigeria on youtube being raised from the dead
Easy to see how these accounts come about
I would agree with risky biscuit that James Brown has soul ;)
@goodlife - more circular reasoning on display from you, goodlife, not for the first time. You make statements pertaining to god, or jesus, then offer as verification the bible - but, as been stated time without number, thats not actual evidence of anything, however much you want it to be.
Mourning and grief over the loss of a loved one, or a respected or loved member of the community is not unnatural - Quite a moving documentary recently showed the obvious grief of a mother elephant on losing its daughter, for instance. Its part of the natural process of closure, of moving on. For some, it might be a comfort that the will meet with loved ones again, but in the absence of any plausible corroborating evidence supporting such a notion, is can be best described as a white lie, and to construct an edifice of belief in which an immortal soul or resurrection is a cornerstone is both absurd, and sad.
@goodlife - more circular reasoning on display from you, goodlife, not for the first time. You make statements pertaining to god, or jesus, then offer as verification the bible - but, as been stated time without number, thats not actual evidence of anything, however much you want it to be.
Mourning and grief over the loss of a loved one, or a respected or loved member of the community is not unnatural - Quite a moving documentary recently showed the obvious grief of a mother elephant on losing its daughter, for instance. Its part of the natural process of closure, of moving on. For some, it might be a comfort that the will meet with loved ones again, but in the absence of any plausible corroborating evidence supporting such a notion, is can be best described as a white lie, and to construct an edifice of belief in which an immortal soul or resurrection is a cornerstone is both absurd, and sad.
Goodlife, //we will not mourn as do others that have no hope.//
Apart from you and your cohorts, who on earth do you think is mourning? Or hoping for that matter? Understand that people who recognise the transparent absurdity of your elastic belief system do not spend their lives quaking in fear of the future, but accept that they will, some day, die.
James Brown – oh yes!
Apart from you and your cohorts, who on earth do you think is mourning? Or hoping for that matter? Understand that people who recognise the transparent absurdity of your elastic belief system do not spend their lives quaking in fear of the future, but accept that they will, some day, die.
James Brown – oh yes!
Chrisgel - "was it in the news".... "oh no it's in a story book...and there's me thinking it was all true". You must be having a laugh - do you believe what you read in the newspapers - how niave are you ! Have you ever heard of true life accounts, or autobiographies written by a ghost writer ? Or possibly you believe nothing unless you see it for yourself - what a narrow outlook and experience you must have ! I can't see one of our "true story" newspapers still being read in 2000 years time. Or maybe you believe otherwise.
What makes anyone think God has said anything in any Word ? One has only the ancient writing of past believers to go on, and the enthusiasm of present ones. I don't recall putting in an appearance anywhere I was, let alone holding a conversation. if there is a God they keep well out of it, it seems.
might be going off topic a bit here but locust states..
Jesus have been dead for three days and was resurrect //
to life as a spirit..
he did not go to heaven //straight away-
it was 40 days later he arrived in heaven
So you are saying jesus was raised as a spirit (JW teaching???)
If jesus was raised as a spirit, (not flesh and bones) then how come after his (spirit) resurection Thomas was able to touch his wounds? How was this spirit able to eat and drink? Funny thing for a spirit to do.
And for the record there is a great deal of evidence to support the idea that the life of jesus was based upon pre-christian savior gods.
Jesus have been dead for three days and was resurrect //
to life as a spirit..
he did not go to heaven //straight away-
it was 40 days later he arrived in heaven
So you are saying jesus was raised as a spirit (JW teaching???)
If jesus was raised as a spirit, (not flesh and bones) then how come after his (spirit) resurection Thomas was able to touch his wounds? How was this spirit able to eat and drink? Funny thing for a spirit to do.
And for the record there is a great deal of evidence to support the idea that the life of jesus was based upon pre-christian savior gods.
Kassee - If it's not true it's not true. Belief like yours and the millions of other deluded sheep does not make one word of it true.
I would even go further and say that if your pretend friend decided to show up tomorrow and started performing miracles all over the world to prove himself, I would still not worship him. For all that I have read of him leads me to believe that he is indeed a jealous and vindictive God who condemns millions upon millions of people to eternal torment for being born in the wrong part of the world. My opinion is that if you believe and accept that that is OK then you are lacking in true compassion.
I would even go further and say that if your pretend friend decided to show up tomorrow and started performing miracles all over the world to prove himself, I would still not worship him. For all that I have read of him leads me to believe that he is indeed a jealous and vindictive God who condemns millions upon millions of people to eternal torment for being born in the wrong part of the world. My opinion is that if you believe and accept that that is OK then you are lacking in true compassion.
That's right naomi, I was hands over eyes fingers in ears for most of my life until experienced healing that could not have come from anywhere else but a Supreme Being.
My belief is not based purely on the Bible but on what I have experienced since becoming a Christian.
There's obviously no point in arguing the subject with you or anyone else on this site because you all have your fixed ideas and no one is going to change them.
The only thing now to do is wait until we do die then see who's right.
My belief is not based purely on the Bible but on what I have experienced since becoming a Christian.
There's obviously no point in arguing the subject with you or anyone else on this site because you all have your fixed ideas and no one is going to change them.
The only thing now to do is wait until we do die then see who's right.
nailit So you are saying Jesus was raised as a spirit (JW teaching???)
If Jesus was raised as a spirit, (not flesh and bones) then how come after his (spirit) resurrection Thomas was able to touch his wounds? How was this spirit able to eat and drink? Funny thing for a spirit to do
Genesis 6 1-2-3-4
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,
2 that the sons (bad angel ) of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
I hope this show s that bad angel or spirits can materialized in to human flash de materialized out ------ this is just one example there are many more
If Jesus was raised as a spirit, (not flesh and bones) then how come after his (spirit) resurrection Thomas was able to touch his wounds? How was this spirit able to eat and drink? Funny thing for a spirit to do
Genesis 6 1-2-3-4
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,
2 that the sons (bad angel ) of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
I hope this show s that bad angel or spirits can materialized in to human flash de materialized out ------ this is just one example there are many more
locusts, do you honestly believe and can say this to your children that there were angels that came down from heaven and had intercourse with human beings and produced these strange beings???
Also in answer to your post, no heaven is mentioned as heaven wasn't open until Jesus went there (this can be confirmed by the WT)
Instead of spending your days knocking down this world and just waiting for Jehovah to bring on judgement day, you might be better off helping some non-JWs in their daily lives. Sorry, but that's just my opinion.
Also in answer to your post, no heaven is mentioned as heaven wasn't open until Jesus went there (this can be confirmed by the WT)
Instead of spending your days knocking down this world and just waiting for Jehovah to bring on judgement day, you might be better off helping some non-JWs in their daily lives. Sorry, but that's just my opinion.
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