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Are there cats in heaven ?
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My granddaughter's cat was sick , nothing serious , but she asked me if it dies will it go to heaven. Now I don't believe in heaven , hell and all that nonsense but if I'm wrong what should my answer have been ?
If all life is of equal value then the answer must be yes but if it is yes where does one draw the line ? Does it include bacteria ?
If the answer is no then who and what goes there ?
Maybe the Buddhists have got it right that there is a finite number of life forms
but we keep getting resurrected so last time you might have been a bug and next time you could be a bacterium and then a bird and so on. I wonder if you could become a cabbage ? It is a life form .
My answer was yes to make her feel better .
If all life is of equal value then the answer must be yes but if it is yes where does one draw the line ? Does it include bacteria ?
If the answer is no then who and what goes there ?
Maybe the Buddhists have got it right that there is a finite number of life forms
but we keep getting resurrected so last time you might have been a bug and next time you could be a bacterium and then a bird and so on. I wonder if you could become a cabbage ? It is a life form .
My answer was yes to make her feel better .
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Tastymorsel - “...I do know that when I talk to God I get a feeling of comfort and also HE HAS NEVER LET ME DOWN...”
That's nice. He's never let you down. What a guy, eh?
The reason He's never let you down is because He's not there. He's not listening. If you feel comforted when you pray then knock yourself out. Your comfort comes from within you. It is not external. Don't delude yourself that you're talking to God. You're not – you're talking to yourself. But if that makes you feel all warm and fussy inside then by all means, continue talking to yourself.
I've never understood the logic behind the idea of praying. It seems so irrational and also quite sacrilegious. When a person prays, they're doing one of two things: they are either praising God for his munificence or they are asking God to do something for them. If a person is praying to tell God that they think He's brilliant then they're wasting their breath – He knows you think He's brilliant because He's Omniscient. If a person is praying to God in order for him to benefit themselves or others then they're asking God to listen to them and change His ineffable and unknowable plan in order to benefit themselves or others. How disrespectful is that? Telling God, “I know you're busy running the universe and everything, but could you make sure that it's sunny on my daughter's wedding. Amen.”.
People who believe in God are perpetual children – unable to accept that they're in charge of their own destinies and constantly wanting reassurance from a fictitious and monumentally capricious parental figure.
Grow up.
That's nice. He's never let you down. What a guy, eh?
The reason He's never let you down is because He's not there. He's not listening. If you feel comforted when you pray then knock yourself out. Your comfort comes from within you. It is not external. Don't delude yourself that you're talking to God. You're not – you're talking to yourself. But if that makes you feel all warm and fussy inside then by all means, continue talking to yourself.
I've never understood the logic behind the idea of praying. It seems so irrational and also quite sacrilegious. When a person prays, they're doing one of two things: they are either praising God for his munificence or they are asking God to do something for them. If a person is praying to tell God that they think He's brilliant then they're wasting their breath – He knows you think He's brilliant because He's Omniscient. If a person is praying to God in order for him to benefit themselves or others then they're asking God to listen to them and change His ineffable and unknowable plan in order to benefit themselves or others. How disrespectful is that? Telling God, “I know you're busy running the universe and everything, but could you make sure that it's sunny on my daughter's wedding. Amen.”.
People who believe in God are perpetual children – unable to accept that they're in charge of their own destinies and constantly wanting reassurance from a fictitious and monumentally capricious parental figure.
Grow up.
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Hopkirk, so is cat heaven, mouse hell, and where do the dogs go to chase cats, cat hell and dog heaven, my head hurts!!!
Tastymorsel, clearly there is no god, even Hitler wasn't that evil, Hitler was a bit like god in some respects, he also had a compassionate side, so maybe we could refer to him as being a good guy.
Tastymorsel, clearly there is no god, even Hitler wasn't that evil, Hitler was a bit like god in some respects, he also had a compassionate side, so maybe we could refer to him as being a good guy.
Quite right jake . The description of heaven always beats them .
If animals are allowed in would it be only those who had led a good life . That rules out the ginger tom from next door and the pit bull opposite.
I liked the post about the dolphin ocean . I wonder if the big white sharks would be allowed in.?
If animals are allowed in would it be only those who had led a good life . That rules out the ginger tom from next door and the pit bull opposite.
I liked the post about the dolphin ocean . I wonder if the big white sharks would be allowed in.?
Well that's a very interesting question modeller .I'll briefly describe my own standpoint - I believe in God but I don't commit myself to any religion . I also don't believe in any kind of afterlife - I believe that the miracle of life continues with the next generation . This is what I would have tried to explain to her - that cats have kittens and the life of the cats continues via the kittens and the next generations . Same applies to bacteria , plants etc..
There are certain species of plants in the Sahara desert regions which are very short-lived but produce wind blown spores which can survive adverse conditions for maybe a decade until the next rains come . When those rains do come the spores come to life , the plants grow and bloom for a few weeks , produce the next generation of wind blown spores , die , the spores lie dormant for another few years until the next rains come and so on...... Those plants will continue doing that long after you and I have gone modeller - such is the miracle of life .
That's what I would have tried to explain - that the life of the cat will continue with the next generation of kittens .
There are certain species of plants in the Sahara desert regions which are very short-lived but produce wind blown spores which can survive adverse conditions for maybe a decade until the next rains come . When those rains do come the spores come to life , the plants grow and bloom for a few weeks , produce the next generation of wind blown spores , die , the spores lie dormant for another few years until the next rains come and so on...... Those plants will continue doing that long after you and I have gone modeller - such is the miracle of life .
That's what I would have tried to explain - that the life of the cat will continue with the next generation of kittens .
wow agorstran ! She's only just 6 don't you think she would tune off long before the end. Also she's very bright and would realise that whatever Granddad said her cat was going to die. In the event the cat survived she had had a bad tummy bug and looked very ill for several days .
This reminds me of when I was about 7, I and a friend found a sick cat in a cemetery and we decided to go into the church and pray for the cat to get well. We really believed, as only child can believe, that our prayers would work . They didn't ! I think that was my first step towards atheism.
This reminds me of when I was about 7, I and a friend found a sick cat in a cemetery and we decided to go into the church and pray for the cat to get well. We really believed, as only child can believe, that our prayers would work . They didn't ! I think that was my first step towards atheism.
Birdie 1971,
When you are getting towards the end of your life, i bet you will change your attitude. Do you really think all this is here for fun? do you believe that when you die it's lights out? I don't, any many other people don't, Perhaps you will be reborn as a cat, with knowledge and memories of a former existance as a person, wondering if there is a cat heaven. think about it.
When you are getting towards the end of your life, i bet you will change your attitude. Do you really think all this is here for fun? do you believe that when you die it's lights out? I don't, any many other people don't, Perhaps you will be reborn as a cat, with knowledge and memories of a former existance as a person, wondering if there is a cat heaven. think about it.
