Sir John Major

[Hymie]

This youtube video captures something quite rare, a politician telling the truth and being insightful about future events.

Quite amazing that it is from 2016; it could have been yesterday.

[Hymie]

In comparison, another politician repeatedly lying through his teeth:-

[andy-hughes]

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

[Hymie]

There are ABers on here who still believe (and perpetuate the myth) that the £350 million on the side of the Brexit bus is correct, which proves the old adage – you can fool some of the people all of the time.

[andy-hughes]

Hygiene - That faulty piece of logic applies t instanceso every political situation.

We can sit here and cherry-pick instances to support our points, but honestly, who can be bothered.

[naomi24]

//We can sit here and cherry-pick instances to support our points, but honestly, who can be bothered. //

Hymie can. Years of it and he's still confused.

[Old_Geezer]

Of course there are ABers on here who still believe the £350 million on the side of the bus, because the figure was accurate and it was explained to the hard of thinking where it came from/how it was arrived at, at the time. The real puzzle here is why some still don't understand, or at best, pretend they don't understand, and still embarrass themselves years later by bringing up the subject of their confusion yet again.

[ToraToraTora]

Looks like RBID is still infecting the 5Cers. The bus had a statement and a suggestion, not a promise but the NHS is indeed getting at least £350m more than it was so nothing to see here.

[ToraToraTora]

Listening to the Grey man, dug up as another propaganda tool by hymie, one could be forgiven for thinking he was anticipating defeat. On that he was correct.

[Hymie]

If I had been stupid enough to believe the lies of the Brexiteers, that the sunny uplands await – with all the economic benefits that the UK would see once we left the EU (and voted leave); I’d be livid at having been lied to.

[naomi24]

You’re livid anyway, hymie. Seems livid was unavoidable for you.

[andy-hughes]

It does no good to credit yesterday's men with coincidence passed off as wisdom.

It encourages them to believe they are still useful and relevant decades after their day in the sun has passed.