Bbc News, Integrtion Has Not Worked With Muslims

[dieseldick]

just heard it on news, they were talking about muslims integrating into germany and merkel now has a massive task on her hands to find a solution to the problem, they talked about the problems that faced france and jaques chirac banning of the burhka etc when he was in charge, german security experts are now saying that they believe isis teams are active in germany asfter coming into the country disquised as refugees , wow really !! .

for me , the fact is that muslims cant intergrate fully with western society, i mean look what they are taught in their koran , such verses here - “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123 also here - Quran 8:59-60 / Quran 2:286 / Quran 3:147 / Quran 8:12 /

“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51

so there you have it in black and white, how to hell can these people fit in with us, i cannot see any solution to the problem.

merkel and co have only added to the problems .

[birdie1971]

Andy-hughes - “... on the subject of Islam, I have made no secret of the fact that my knowledge is basic..”

On the subject of Islam, you're a 'low-information commenter' if ever I saw one. What a balloon you have proven yourself to be. By your own admission, you know nothing of Islam. You clearly know nothing of the concept of scriptural abrogation. Nor do you know of the Islamic concept of taqiyya. You know nothing about Islam, having never read any Islamic texts. You are operating from a point of zero knowledge and yet have the brass neck to tell those of us who are well versed in Islamic scripture that we're wrong. You display an astonishing arrogance. It would be funny if it weren't so serious.

And you owe Naomi an apology. How, in good conscience, can you ridicule and attempt to make a mockery of her arguments when you – by your own admission – are operating from a position of ignorance about the Islamic scriptures?

[Mamyalynne]

Crikey - it's years since I heard 'balloon' used as a put down.

Hopefully this late night addition will get a response in daylight hours.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Arf.

[vetuste_ennemi]

It's nice to get out of the house from time to time and meet bright people, innit?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Know wot i mean, Harry?

[naomi24]

^ :o)

Thanks Birdie. Hard work innit. ;o)

[birdie1971]

Mamyalynne - “Crikey - it's years since I heard 'balloon' used as a put down...”

I love it. It's 'old school'. It truly encapsulates the very essence of the self-righteous, know-nothing ignoramus – a thin skinned bag of nowt but air.

[Jackdaw33]

Never heard the term before. I took it as a malapropism for'buffoon'.

[birdie1971]

Naomi -

You're most welcome. His comments on this matter have been both deplorable and quite laughable. His comments about you in particular have been despicable. I would like to think that he's ashamed of himself but I suspect that in reality he's not.

[Mamyalynne]

Can't say I love it, my youngest brother used to say it a lot.

[webbo3]

The bible and the quran are pretty much the same, a fairy tale about a invisible beinging the sky, the trouble is a lot of Muslims take what is written quite literally and a lot of Christians dont.


Dave.

[Mamyalynne]

Are you overseas Birdie?

I ask this as you seem to come and castigate Andy well after midnight when he isn't here.

Are you not able to post in 'our' daytime?

[birdie1971]

Jackdaw33

I think it's a term that few outside of Greater Manchester will have heard as a derogatory expression.

[Jackdaw33]

I think Birdie's last post answers your question, Mamya. I believe he is UK-based but this is his 'me' time.

[birdie1971]

Mamyalynne - “Are you overseas Birdie?”

No. I work in the UK but my job is very demanding of my time. The weekend is really the only time I can relax and catch up with TV, the news and of course AB.

So tonight I am home. I'm just up late, taking full advantage of my free time :-)

[Mamyalynne]

Ta Birdie, interesting you say Greater Manchester - I am still a Lancashire lass in my mind but then we may be a fair few miles apart.

[tonyav]

'Balloon' !, I thought that Div was a Greater Manchester put down ( well it was when I used to visit the Greater Manchester area ie Wigan ).

[Mamyalynne]

Pie Eaters ? ;-)

[tonyav]

Ohhhhhhhh

[vetuste_ennemi]

You're looking very pale tonight, Mamya. Have you been fasting?