Are you one, who has wrecked Britain?

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/366yrbo

At last someone from the younger generation has finally admitted that the last two generations have wrecked Britain.

Now 'us old ones' can sit back with a smug expression on our faces, and say "there I told you so, Britain was much better in our time".

If that is what one calls 'instant gratification' then yes, it sure was when I read this.

[ummmm]

Glad something has made you happy..

[Ankou]

it says ....

"The Deputy Prime Minister said his parents' generation and his own had 'run up debts, despoiled the planet and allowed our institutions to wither'. "

so aog, thats you and my parents then is it?

[VHG]

There has always been good and bad THINGS about all periods in history.

There has also been good and bad PEOPLE in all periods in history.

I think it is a bit much of Nick Clegg to say what he said.

There are plenty of people around today who work hard, save, live honestly and so on.

In the same way there were criminals 70 or 100 years ago.

I have read a number of books about famous people in history and it seems it was very common to die leaving loads of debts so that is not new.

There is a program on TV at the moment about the massive increase in crime that went on during the second world war so not everyone "did their bit" during the war.

Cleggs statements are far too sweeping.

[VHG]

>Britain was much better in our time

Rose coloured spectacles I think.

Go back 100 years

Many people dying of TB, Smallpox, Measles etc.

Many children not living beyond their first year.

People working long hours with no holiday.

No trade unions.

Factories and houses belching out smoke covering buildings with dirt and cities with smog.

Houses with no indoor toilets and bathrooms.

Poor sanitation.

No health service.

Workhouses and bleak prisons.

Suggest you watch a few episodes of "Who do you think you are" on TV to see how awful some lives were not that long ago.

[fredpuli47]

Blimey, AOG, how old are you? I admit that I'm one and I'm 63. My eldest is 33, so we're well within Clegg's target. I blame the parents (mine, not his).

Seems a bit unfair, considering all the taxes we've been paying to create this Nirvana.

[anotheoldgit]

Ankou

/// so aog, thats you and my parents then is it? ///

Do your sums, Nick Clegg was born in 1967, that means if his parents were aged around 22 when they had him, they themselves were born around the end of WW2..(1945).

So they are not of my generation.

[Answerprancer]

Do you make these posts deliberately to stir up sh!t ?
I think you need to get out more.

[Ankou]

how can i do the sums with a number missing. (ok i could do algebra, but its a friday for crying out lioud)

well what is your generation then aog ?

[jno]

Clegg's mother was born in 1936, making her 74 - your generation, aog?

[jake-the-peg]

Gosh

I wonder how the great depression in the early thirties happened then?

Strange for someone with such a good PPE degree from Oxford not to think of that!

Unless he's just sucking up to gullible older voters!

[anotheoldgit]

Blimey VHG I am not that old, although I do remember some of those disadvantage.

You mentioned the rise in crime during WW2, yes maybe it did rise in some aspects.

Because of the shortages you were bound to get those ready to cash in, just as they do now with counterfeit goods etc.

Because of the Blackout, some less desirables took advantage of the completely dark streets.

But there were less young men on the streets, due to them being in the Forces, so there would not be many big criminals, only the petty things carried out by the old men.

Regarding murders

Homicides per million population in England and Wales
Year Homicides
1900 9.6
1910 8.1
1920 8.3
1930 7.5
1940 ..
1950 7.9
1955 6.3
1960 6.2
1965 6.8
1970 8.1
1975 10.3
1980 12.5
1985 12.5
1990 13.1
1995 14.5
1997 14.1
Homicide in England and Wales includes the offences of murder,manslaughter and infanticide.
The rate of homicides peaked in
the mid-1990s. In 1995 14.5
homicides were committed per
million of population.
· Since the early 1960s the number
of homicides per million
population has more than doubled.

So you see VHG I think it is you who has the rose tinted specs.

Please don't force me to make a list of the disadvantages made to this country during the period of the last two generations.

[clokey]

During the forties Uncle Clegg said
My generation has wrecked the country, claims Uncle Clegg

[anotheoldgit]

Answerprancer

/// Do you make these posts deliberately to stir up sh!t ?///

Only reporting on a conclusion come to by a person who is better educated than you or I together.

As regards getting out more, I get out enough thank you very much, but then there is more 'sh!t' out there than I could ever stir up on here.

[jake-the-peg]

Hey AOG

Why do your statistics stop in 1997 - when the Labour Government came in?

Could it be because it doesn't suit your argument?

Because it peaked in the mid 90s and dropped sharply under Labour

http://www.parliament...rch/rp99/rp99-111.pdf

1.70 1.78 2.06 1.76 1.75 1.49

[jno]

I must say, I hadn't realised quite how badly homicides soared under Maggie, though it has always seemed to me that she inagurated the age of me-first; shame on Labour for continuing with it.

However, I repeat: is Clegg's mother of your generation, aog?

[anotheoldgit]

jno

'Wrong'

[angler57]

wondered how long before the party politic got involved, they are ALL to blame playing their yah boo sucks blame everyone except us and NEVER accept that the other side may have had a good idea